It's interesting to note that a model that can OpenAI is valued almost 400 times more than moonshotai, despite their models being surprisingly close.

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famouswaffles 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

OpenAI is a household name with nearly a billion weekly active users. Not sure there's any reality where they wouldn't be valued much more than Kimi regardless of how close the models may be.

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m3kw9 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unless they can beat their capabilities by a clear magical step up and has infrastructure to capture the users

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moffkalast 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well to be the devil's advocate: One is a household name that holds most of the world's silicon wafers for ransom, and the other sounds like a crypto scam. Also estimating valuation of Chinese companies is sort of nonsense when they're all effectively state owned.

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epolanski 8 hours ago | parent [-]

There isn't a single % that is state owned in Moonshot AI.

And don't start me with the "yeah but if the PRC" because it's gross when US can de facto ban and impose conditions even on European companies, let alone the control it has on US ones.

	▲	swyx 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Funny because that's how us Americans feel about your European cookie banner litter and unilateral demands on privacy