I own a Model Y with hardware version 4. FSD prevented my from getting in an accident with a drunk driver. It reacted much faster to the situation than I could have. Ever since, I’m sold that in a lot of circumstances, machines can drive better than humans.

▲ dangus 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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▲ direwolf20 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Money is apolitical. Politics is not allowed on HN.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Politics is not allowed on HN Nothing in the guidelines says this. What it does require is "thoughtful and substantive" comments, particularly "as a topic gets more divisive."
	▲	kelseyfrog 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		This is ridiculous wrong and demonstrates a profound lack of insight into both the history of economics[1] and the current political calculus. Please don't use rules as a cudgel or at least have more tact doing so. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_economy

▲ kolbe 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hacker News likes to keep conversations focused on the topic at hand. I doubt anyone here thinks politics are irrelevant. We just understand basic courtesy. If your goal is indeed to influence change, you do a massive disservice to the cause by acting immature and injecting your politics into other conversations.

▲ renewiltord 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, as everyone points out: Musk uses Tesla’s stock to fund things and Tesla’s stock is decoupled from fundamentals like revenue so that means that buying his car is decoupled from funding things. Practically a syllogism.

▲ parineum 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> mass human displacement campaign (a.k.a. Genocide)

genocide /jĕn′ə-sīd″/ noun

    The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.

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dangus 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Great, I’m glad your dictionary is happy about deporting 5 year olds.

“Uhm aktually it’s not a genocide it’s just a fascist police state”

Multiple humanitarian organizations define mass displacement as genocide and/or ethnic cleansing.

The holocaust literally started with mass deportations/detentions. Then the nazis figured out that it was easier to kill detainees.

	▲	mhb 12 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If you have some point to make about deporting 5 years olds or whatever, don't you think it would be more persuasive without provoking a tangential discussion about your idiosyncratic definition of genocide regardless of whatever organizations agree with you?
	▲	parineum 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Multiple humanitarian organizations define mass displacement as genocide and/or ethnic cleansing. You're mixing two things here to your advantage. Genocide is (or can be) ethnic cleansing but ethnic cleansing is not genocide. So your "and/or" does some work for you there and makes you correct. However, you said genocide not "genocide and/or ethnic cleansing". You've moved the goalposts. It'd be odd to redefine any word that ends in '-cide' from actual killing. > The holocaust literally started with mass deportations/detentions. Which was ethnic cleansing. > Then the nazis figured out that it was easier to kill detainees. Which was the point which it became a genocide.

▲ throw20251220 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So does AEB in any modern car.

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fred_is_fred 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Tesla fans have not realized that every car made since 2021ish can do this.

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1970-01-01 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It does more than AEB. It also knows to swerve out of the way during E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1MWml-81e0

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throw20251220 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Generally known as AES, for example from BMW available with Active Driving Assistant or Driving Assistant Plus packages.

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tevon 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I have a late model Audi, and a Tesla Model 3. Audi has all the bells and whistles.

Doesn't come close to the safety I feel in the Tesla. Not even close. I know anecdotal

	▲	servo_sausage 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Design of these safety features for euro cars generally aims to be invisible unless active. You don't "feel" the car in control.

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dzhiurgis 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AEB has been around since ages. Even my 2010 Mazda had it. It's nowhere near Tesla's capabilities tho. Not sure what are you trying to achieve with such dunks?

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throw20251220 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Obviously.

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mullingitover 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My 2016 Honda Civic has automatic braking (and it has lanekeep assist, so it's technologically superior to a 2026 Tesla).