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Stargaze: SpaceX's Space Situational Awareness System(starlink.com)
93 points by hnburnsy 8 hours ago | 18 comments
pjscott 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Honestly, these two paragraphs are one of the most compelling things they could possibly say in a press release:

> Stargaze already has a proven track record in its utility for space safety. In late 2025, a Starlink satellite encountered a conjunction with a third-party satellite that was performing maneuvers, but whose operator was not sharing ephemeris. Until five hours before the conjunction, the close approach was anticipated to be ~9,000 meters—considered a safe miss-distance with zero probability of collision. With just five hours to go, the third-party satellite performed a maneuver which changed its trajectory and collapsed the anticipated miss distance to just ~60 meters. Stargaze quickly detected this maneuver and published an updated trajectory to the screening platform, generating new CDMs which were immediately distributed to relevant satellites. Ultimately, the Starlink satellite was able to react within an hour of the maneuver being detected, planning an avoidance maneuver to reduce collision risk back down to zero.

> With so little time to react, this would not have been possible by relying on legacy radar systems or high-latency conjunction screening processes. If observations of the third-party satellite were less frequent, conjunction screening took longer, or the reaction required human approval, such an event might not have been successfully mitigated.

Looks like a non-trivial upgrade to previous systems, and they're making Stargaze's data available to other satellite operators free of charge. Nice!

w10-1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This seems necessary and desirable, but pretty much a government function. I can't see how simple good-faith cooperation prevents abuse.

Possible abuses:

(1) Use the information to actually interfere or collide with satellites

(2) Use the information to track secret satellites by excluding traces from non-secret ones

(3) Free riders gaining secondary access without providing data

(4) Use access to this when traffic is more contended to enforce hegemony

(5) Anti-competitive coordination under the rubric of cooperation

And while the system might be helpful under ordinary peacetime conditions, will it make a war more or less destructive?

It's silly that NASA is planning for Mars and the moon but hasn't already solved this coordination problem on a world scale.

nlitened an hour ago | parent [-]

As far as I understand, bad faith actors already have wide possibilities for disruption and abuse. This system allows for better good-faith coordination for mutual benefit.

Hextinium 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems like a generally good idea, the satellites already need to use star trackers, they need an almanac of what should be there so deviations need to be tracked.

I can entirely see the military perspective though, this is almost a direct challenge for any adversary that any maneuver you perform, we will know about it.

reed1234 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The Space Force already tracks satellites (and debris). I imagine this is more of an improvement for small debris such as bolts, etc.

sfblah 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's not.

pjscott 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If you're familiar with the technical specs, I'd be interested in hearing what size of objects the star trackers can sense and at what range. In theory the fancier star trackers can see objects around 10 cm diameter hundreds of kilometers away, without needing to worry about a pesky atmosphere [1], but I don't know how sensitive the sensors on Starlink's current generation satellites are, and this web site isn't saying.

They're mostly touting the improvement in latency over existing tracking, from delays measured in hours to ones measured in minutes. Which is very nice, of course, but the lack of other technical detail is mildly frustrating.

[1] https://www.mit.edu/~hamsa/pubs/ShtofenmakherBalakrishnan-IA...

mikkupikku 3 hours ago | parent [-]

NASA tracks debris 10cm or larger. They also detect and statistically estimate debris as small as 3mm in LEO.

This is my source, from 2021 fwiw: https://oig.nasa.gov/office-of-inspector-general-oig/ig-21-0...

pjscott 3 hours ago | parent [-]

So it looks to be just the latency improvement that's noteworthy, then. Thank you!

sfblah 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. Sorry for the brief answer. Too bad I got downvoted. There's no size improvement.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Damn it. I wanted to use that name

wtcactus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"To maximize safety for all satellites in space, SpaceX will be making Stargaze conjunction data available to all operators, free of charge, via its space-traffic management platform."

Many people don't still realize it, but the problem of low orbit debris is only getting worse. So, this is a really nice gesture. Thank you, Elon Musk.

iNic 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The one advantage of monopolies is that they tend the commons.

uyzstvqs 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You're free to start your own space exploration company.

lionkor 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It sounds like a hook, like "don't like all the space debris? use our management platform" and then it'll suddenly start costing money

bigfatkitten 2 hours ago | parent [-]

SpaceX has a very, very large financial interest in avoiding collisions. Providing this service helps ensure that.

wtcactus 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

Several governments have an even bigger interest in avoiding these collisions, so, these systems should have existed for decades now.

But, you can always trust the government to spend 10x more to do 10x worst...

drivingmenuts 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who knew that Big Brother would name himself after a 1990s movie about a completely different premise?