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leumon 2 hours ago

> We’re continuing to make progress toward a version of ChatGPT designed for adults over 18, grounded in the principle of treating adults like adults, and expanding user choice and freedom within appropriate safeguards. To support this, we’ve rolled out age prediction for users under 18 in most markets. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12652064-age-prediction-...

interesting

GoatInGrey 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pornographic use has long been the "break glass in case of emergency" for the LLM labs when it comes to finances.

My personal opinion is that while smut won't hurt anyone in of itself, LLM smut will have weird and generally negative consequences. As it will be crafted specifically for you on top of the intermittent reinforcement component of LLM generation.

estimator7292 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

While this is a valid take, I feel compelled to point out Chuck Tingle.

The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste. Like, to the point that even LLMs are going to take a long time to put a dent in the smut market. Humans have been making smut for longer than we've had writing.

But again I don't think you're wrong, but the scale of the problem is way distorted.

MBCook an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That’s all simple one way consumption though. I suspect the effect on people is very different when it’s interactive in the way an LLM can be that we’ve never had to recon with before.

That’s where the danger may lie.

viraptor an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You could commission smut of whatever type you want for quite a while. And many people do so. Even customised smut is not new. It's just going to get a bit cheaper and automated.

azan_ 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

You couldn't talk to commissioned smut. Of course you could request changes etc. but the feedback loop was nowhere close to what you can get with AI. Interactivity is a very big deal.

pixl97 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Alien 1: "How did the earthlings lose control of their own planet?"

Alien 2: "AI generated porn"

cal_dent an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i've always wondered how much the increasing prevalence of smut & not so niche romance novels, that have proliferated since e-readers became mainstream, have had on Gen Z and younger's sometimes unrealistic view/expectations of relationship. A lot of time is spent on porn sites etc. but not so much on how mainstream some of these novels have become

cluckindan 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

They had similar wonderings in the Victorian era, and probably in the Roman empire and ancient Greece too.

bakugo 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> The sheer amount and variety of smut books (just books) is vastly larger than anyone wants to realize. We passed the mark decades ago where there is smut available for any and every taste.

It's important to note that the vast majority of such books are written for a female audience, though.

measurablefunc 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

People are already addicted to non-interactive pornography so this is going to be even worse.

thayne 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It says what to do if you are over 18, but thinks you are under 18. But what if it identifies someone under 18 as being older?

And what if you are over 18, but don't want to be exposed to that "adult" content?

> Viral challenges that could push risky or harmful behavior

And

> Content that promotes extreme beauty standards, unhealthy dieting, or body shaming

Seem dangerous regardless of age.

novemp 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

> And what if you are over 18, but don't want to be exposed to that "adult" content?

Don't prompt it.

torginus 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My personal take is that there has been no progress - potentially there has been a regression on all LLM things outside of coding a scientific pursuits - I used to have great fun with LLMs with creative writing stuff, but I feel like current models are stiff and not very good prose writers.

This is also true for stuff like writing clear but concise docs, they're overly verbose while often not getting the point across.

geeunits an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is for advertising purposes, not porn. They might feign that's the reason, but it's to allow alcohol & pharma to advertise, no doubt.

chilmers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sexual and intimate chat with LLMs will be a huge market for whoever corners it. They'd be crazy to leave that money on the table.

palmotea 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's why laws against drugs are so terrible, it forces law-abiding businesses to leave money on the table. Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction.

0xbadcafebee 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

No need: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic_in_the_United_...

The majority of illegal drugs aren't addictive, and people are already addicted to the addictive ones. Drug laws are a "social issue" (Moral Majority-influenced), not intended to help people or prevent harm.

noosphr 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Politician's syllogism in action:

That is terrible.

Se have to do something.

This is something.

We must do it.

It terms of harm current laws on drugs fail everyone but teetotaller who want everyone else to have a miserable life too.

chilmers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are many companies making money off alcohol addiction, video game addiction, porn addiction, food addiction, etc. Should we outlaw all these things? Should we regulate them and try to make them safe? If we can do that for them, can't we do it for AI sex chat?

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runarberg an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

And that makes it all alright doesn’t it?

There are also gangs making money off human trafficking? Does that make it OK for a corporation to make money off human trafficking as well? And there are companies making money off wars?

When you argue with whataboutism, you can just point to whatever you like, and somehow that is an argument in your favor.

bethekidyouwant 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

How is ai sex chat like any of those things, whataboutism indeed

georgemcbay 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction.

Worked for gambling.

(Not saying this as a message of support. I think legalizing/normalizing easy app-based gambling was a huge mistake and is going to have an increasingly disastrous social impact).

LPisGood an hour ago | parent [-]

Why do you think it will be increasingly bad? It seems to me like it’s already as bad as it’s capable of getting.

shmel an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

what about laws against porn? Oh, wait, no, that's a legitimate business.

thayne 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If your goal is to make money, sure. If your goal is to make AI safe, not so much.

tpurves an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not just chat. Remember image and video generation are on the table. There are already a huge category of adult video 'games' of this nature. I think they use combos of pre-rendered and dynamic content. But really not hard to imagine a near future that interactive and completely personalized AI porn in full 4kHDR or VR is constantly and near-instantly available. I have no idea the broader social implications of all that, but the tech itself feels inevitable and nearly here.

koakuma-chan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It will be an even bigger market when robotics are sufficiently advanced.

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acetofenone an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My main concern is when they'll start to allow 18+ deepfakes

ekianjo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That market is for local models right now.

kace91 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What’s the goal there? Sexting?

I’m guessing age is needed to serve certain ads and the like, but what’s the value for customers?

elevation 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Even when you're making PG content, the general propriety limits of AI can hinder creative work.

The "Easter Bunny" has always seemed creepy to me, so I started writing a silly song in which the bunny is suspected of eating children. I had too many verses written down and wanted to condense the lyrics, but found LLMs telling me "I cannot help promote violence towards children." Production LLM services would not help me revise this literal parody.

Another day I was writing a romantic poem. It was abstract and colorful, far from a filthy limerick. But when I asked LLMs for help encoding a particular idea sequence into a verse, the models refused (except for grok, which didn't give very good writing advice anyway.)

estimator7292 an hour ago | parent [-]

Just today I asked how to shut down a Mac with "maximal violence". I was looking for the equivalent of "systemctl shutdown -f -f" and it refused to help me do violence.

Believe me, the Mac deserved it.

shmel an hour ago | parent [-]

It reminds me that story about a teenage learning Rust that got a refusal because he had asked about "unsafe" code =)

jandrese 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you don't think the potential market for AI sexbots is enormous you have not paid attention to humanity.

robotnikman 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a subreddit called /r/myboyfriendisAI, you can look through it and see for yourself.

jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Porn has driven just about every bit of progress on the internet, I don't see why AI would be the exception to that rule.

runarberg an hour ago | parent [-]

This seems like a believable lie, until you think about it for 2 seconds.

No. Porn has not driven even a fraction of the progress on the progress on the internet. Not even close to one.

jacquesm 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ok, we'll expand to porn and gambling

- images - payment systems - stored video - banner advertising - performance based advertising - affiliation - live video - video chat - fora

Etc... AI is a very logical frontier for the porn industry.

azan_ a minute ago | parent [-]

Just because things can be used for porn, it doesn't mean that it was porn that has driven their progress.

leumon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

according to the age-prediction page, the changes are:

> If [..] you are under 18, ChatGPT turns on extra safety settings. [...] Some topics are handled more carefully to help reduce sensitive content, such as:

- Graphic violence or gore

- Viral challenges that could push risky or harmful behavior

- Sexual, romantic, or violent role play

- Content that promotes extreme beauty standards, unhealthy dieting, or body shaming

ekianjo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

There is a huge book market for sexual stories, in case you were not aware.

chasd00 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

eh there's an old saying that goes "no Internet technology can be considered a success until it has been adopted by (or in this case integrated with) the porn industry".

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