| ▲ | simonw 3 hours ago |
| > [...] the vast majority of usage has shifted to GPT‑5.2, with only 0.1% of users still choosing GPT‑4o each day. |
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| ▲ | fpgaminer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Well yeah, because 5.2 is the default and there's no way to change the default. So every time you open up a new chat you either use 5.2 or go out of your way to select something else. (I'm particularly annoyed by this UI choice because I always have to switch back to 5.1) |
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| ▲ | arrowsmith 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What about 5.1 do you prefer over 5.2? | | |
| ▲ | fpgaminer an hour ago | parent [-] | | As far as I can tell 5.2 is the stronger model on paper, but it's been optimized to think less and do less web searches. I daily drive Thinking variants, not Auto or Instant, and usually want the _right_ answer even if it takes a minute. 5.1 does a very good job of defensively web searching, which avoids almost all of its hallucinations and keeps docs/APIs/UIs/etc up-to-date. 5.2 will instead often not think at all, even in Thinking mode. I've gotten several completely wrong, hallucinated answers since 5.2 came out, whereas maybe a handful from 5.1. (Even with me using 5.2 far less!) The same seems to persist in Codex CLI, where again 5.2 doesn't spend as much time thinking so its solutions never come out as nicely as 5.1's. That said, 5.1 is obviously slower for these reasons. I'm fine with that trade off. Others might have lighter workloads and thus benefit more from 5.2's speed. |
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| ▲ | adamiscool8 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| 0.1% of users is not necessarily 0.1% of conversations… |
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| ▲ | SecretDreams 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What's the default model when a random user goes to use the chatgpt website or app? |
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| ▲ | mrec 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | 5.2 in the website. You can see what was used for a specific response by hovering over the refresh icon at the end. | |
| ▲ | bananaflag 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 5.2. You can go to chatgpt.com and ask "what model are you" (it doesn't hallucinate on this). | | |
| ▲ | SecretDreams 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Probably a relationship between what's the default and what model is being used the most. It is more about what OAI sets than what users care about. Flip side is "good enough is good enough" for most users. | |
| ▲ | johndough 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > (it doesn't hallucinate on this) But how do we know that you did not hallucinate the claim that ChatGPT does not hallucinate its version number? We could try to exfiltrate the system prompt which probably contains the model name, but all extraction attempts could of course be hallucinations as well. (I think there was an interview where Sam Altman or someone else at OpenAI where it was mentioned that they hardcoded the model name in the prompt because people did not understand that models don't work like that, so they made it work. I might be hallucinating though.) | | |
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| ▲ | AlexeyBrin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | On the paid version it is 5.2. |
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| ▲ | lifetimerubyist 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| won't somebody think of the goonettes?! |
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