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rappatic 6 hours ago

This happened in 2019. The wheels of justice turn very slowly.

tptacek 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Certainly the wheels of civil suits do.

giantg2 3 hours ago | parent [-]

My state, like many, defines a speedy criminal trail as the trial commencing any time within 5 years of being charged...

dmix 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

In Canada there was a big court case over the civil right of "right to a speedy trial" where the courts said it had to be within 18 months for charges in provincial courts where most crime ends up. During COVID there was a giant backlog of trials created and a criminal lawyer I know told me half of her clients in recent years got their cases stayed (thrown out) because of this backlog. This apparently happened all over the country and included tons people who were charged for violent crimes.

https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/16057/i...

lazide 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Justice delayed is justice denied.

ddtaylor 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Two people for six years in that industry they probably lost a lot more than $600k.

IshKebab 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I doubt they were out of work for that whole time.

tptacek 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They were held for a total of 20 hours.

sudobash1 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Particularly not with the free advertising they got from this.

giantg2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When they turn this slowly it's disingenuous to call it justice. Spending 10% of your adult life locked in legal battles is a ridiculous price to pay for something that should be resolved in under a year.

tptacek 3 hours ago | parent [-]

They weren't "locked in a legal battle". Their criminal charges were dismissed within 6 months of the incident happening. What resolved recently was a civil suit they themselves brought for damages from defamation and emotional distress.

giantg2 an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes, civil suits are also legal battles. There's no reason it should have taken more than a year to resolve.

By the way, I dont know who you are quoting as that is not my exact wording.

tptacek an hour ago | parent [-]

I think this is the kind of thing that sounds reasonable until the first time you've sued someone. Resolution in one year? Don't even fantasize about it.

defrost an hour ago | parent [-]

"We" (here in W.Australia) got sued by a US company for doing math once - took six years of legal back and forth to "win", eight years out of people's lives from disruption, and essentially destroyed a company that innovated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LizardTech,_Inc._v._Earth_Reso....

tptacek an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think these are crazy timelines for civil litigation here. I mean, is it worth criticizing? I guess, sure. But: civil suits take for-ev-er. A case is an indeterminate but fairly large number of steps, each of which includes 1d8+4 month next check-in date.

ryandrake 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'd like to see an hour-by-hour breakdown of what labor is actually being done, by which judges, lawyers and clerks, during the course of a 6 year trial, and see how much it adds up to. I wonder if it would even amount to a single, cumulative person-month of work?

tptacek 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

I assure you they are doing a shitload of work. They're just not doing it on your case.

defrost an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not disagreeing on the time frame, just bitching about the impact and the cold truth that often no one wins (save for lawyers).

tptacek an hour ago | parent [-]

No, of course, believe me I understand viscerally.

otikik 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Except for the wealthy, who can dial it up or down