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toast0 13 hours ago

That's pretty hyperbolic. At less than 20 mph, car vs pedestrial is unlikely to result in death. IIHS says [1] in an article about other things:

> As far as fatalities were concerned, pedestrians struck at 20 mph had only a 1% chance of dying from their injuries

Certainly, being struck at 6 mph rather than 17 mph is likely to result in a much better outcome for the pedestrian. And that should not be minimized; although it is valuable to consider the situation (when we have sufficient information) and validate Waymo's suggestion that the average human driver would also have struck the pedestrian and at greater speed. That may or may not be accurate, given the context of a busy school dropoff situation... many human drivers are extra cautious in that context and may not have reached that speed; depending on the end to end route, some human drivers would have avoided the street with the school all together based on the time, etc. It's certainly seems like a good result for the premise, child unexpectedly appears from between large parked vehicles, but maybe there should have been an expectation.

[1] https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/vehicle-height-compounds-da...

xnx 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's a 50/50 chance that a distracted driver wouldn't have slowed at all and run the child over.

thatswrong0 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> To estimate injury risk at different impact speeds, IIHS researchers examined 202 crashes involving pedestrians ages 16 or older

A child is probably more likely to die in a collision of the same speed as an adult.

globular-toast 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How many human drivers do under 20mph, like ever?

toast0 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Plenty. Have you ever driven on a freeway at rush hour? Have you driven in a pickup/dropoff line at a school or an airport? You may or may not want to go 100, but when there's a vehicle in front of you going 20mph or less, you're kind of stuck.

globular-toast 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, I have seen how people struggle to drive at low speed and can only do start/stop, accelerating to a way too high speed only to slam on brakes, repeating endlessly.

But really, did you seriously read my post as meaning people literally can't go slower than 20 so just plough into whatever is in the way? I'm obviously talking about an open road situation. Hardly any human drivers go under 20 by choice.

toast0 5 hours ago | parent [-]

What does an open road situation have to do with the incident situation?