A: The same is true for people that say that antidepressants are mostly placebo. They are not.

B: When people say that antidepressants saved their life, they aren’t joking or exaggerating in the least.

Are placebos unable to save lives?

Not claiming antidepressants are or are not mostly placebo, and don't mean to minimize the pain of depression in anyway. I just don't think whether or not they saved a person's life is an indication either way. The placebo effect is real, right? As in the subject actually gets better after taking it.

> Keep your pet theories to yourself if you are not a subject matter expert or someone who has experienced it first hand.

This is the internet, friend. I wish you the best, but maybe don't put too much hope into that one. I think you'll have better luck cultivating the ability to be comfortable having your own beliefs while others have different (possibly wrong!) ones.

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hombre_fatal 2 hours ago | parent [-]

When you do this, you're just accusing people of having no real evaluative power about their own experience. It's pointless, and it's not really an opinion.

Placebo-controlled RCTs show that some people react well to antidepressants with major variation from person to person.

	▲	ifyoubuildit an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Maybe I wasn't being clear, since I didn't mean to accuse anyone of anything. I'm not disputing that someone had the genuine experience of antidepressants saving their life. I'm asking if that precludes antidepressants acting as a placebo. In other words both things can be true: antidepressants saved someone's life and antidepressants can act as placebo (even in the case where they saved someone's life). And notice I'm saying "can be true". I'm not saying they are true, cause I have no idea. This is a logic question, not some kind of moral attack.