Why would I want wasm for an embedded database? It's not a feature, quite an anti-feature frankly.

edit: it looks like pglite is only useful for web apps

evertheylen 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not really, I used it to develop against a "real" postgres database for a node backend app. It worked fine and made it pretty easy to spin up a development/CI environment anywhere you want. Only when inserting large amounts of data you start to notice it is slower than native postgres. I had to stop using it because we required the postgis extension (although there is some movement on that front!).

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9rx 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> it looks like pglite is only useful for web apps

Where else other than web apps (herein meaning network-attached database servers that, more often than not, although not strictly so, use HTTP as the transport layer) are at meaningful risk of bumping up against SQLite write contention? If your mobile/desktop app has that problem, it is much more likely that you have a fundamental design issue and not a scaling problem.

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duped 14 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure I follow what that has to do with embedding a database into your application

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9rx 13 hours ago | parent [-]

In a networked environment, which includes the web, it is typical to expose your database over the network. In the olden days clients started speaking SQL over the network, but there are a number of pitfalls to this approach. SQL was designed for use on mainframes, which, understandably, does not translate to the constraints of the network very well.

To alleviate the pressure of those pitfalls, we started adding middle databases (oft called web apps, API services, REST services, etc.) that proxied the database through protocols that are more ideal to the realities and limitations of the network. Clients were then updated to use the middle database, seeing the hacks required to make SQL usable over the network to be centralized in one spot, greatly reducing the management burden.

But having two database servers is pretty silly when you think about it. Especially when the "backend" database's protocol isn't suitable for the network[1]. Enter the realization that if you use something like SQLite, you don't need another, separate database server. You can have one database server[1] that speaks a network friendly API. Except SQLite itself has a number of limitations that doesn't make it well suited to being the backing engine of your network-first DBMS.

That is what the article is about — Pointing out those limitations, and how Turso plans to overcome them. If your use case isn't "web app", SQLite is already going to do the job just fine.

[1] After all, if it were suited for networks, you wouldn't need the middle service. Clients would already be talking to that database directly instead.

[2] As in one logical database server. In practice, you may use a cluster of servers to provide that logical representation.

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