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AreShoesFeet000 3 hours ago

The population numbers of other countries are only relevant when serving an imperial or colonial enterprise. In a way this article reads somewhat like a mob boss complaining that their accountant is skimming off the top.

If I were a rightful leader of all Nigeria I would make sure those numbers would never be accessible for westerners as it’s the fist thing you need to know when you decide to wage war of any kind against some people.

ReptileMan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you really think the outcome of western militaries vs nigeria will be different if Nigeria has a million or a billion people?

AreShoesFeet000 3 hours ago | parent [-]

How else are you going to estimate the number of soldiers to send, the overall cost, and the projected return from labor exploitation? How do you think wars are waged and what do you think motivates them?

anonymous908213 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you think that the British had an accurate census of the populations of all the places they were conquering on their attempt at world conquest in the 1600s-1800s?

AreShoesFeet000 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you think they have an accurate census now? Isn’t this the very subject the author is trying to outline?

anonymous908213 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No, but you are the one presupposing that an accurate census is a necessary tool of colonialism and conquest, which seems not to be borne out in any way by the history of colonialism and conquest.

pixl97 an hour ago | parent [-]

Modern data driven enterprises typically like to avoid failure and do so at an appropriate cost. They didn't have these tools at all in the past, and on occasion a misguided conquest could lead to the end of the conquesting nation.

rrr_oh_man 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nope, and it didn't matter.

You need to know military, not population size (how quickly can a militia be raised, how long can it be sustained, how well they are armed, who can be persuaded to defect, etc.). This is related to population size, but not linearly.

Population counts get only interesting for military and tax potential during administration of a territory.

GP's point is valid, though, imho.

AreShoesFeet000 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In your honest opinion, is current colonialism in /that/ country that is doing genocide more or less effective than South African apartheid?

OtherShrezzing 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>The population numbers of other countries are only relevant when serving an imperial or colonial enterprise.

Is this statement not in direct contention with this statement:

>If I were a rightful leader of all Nigeria I would make sure those numbers would never be accessible for westerners as it’s the fist thing you need to know when you decide to wage war of any kind against some people.

Surely the leader of the colonisation target country would like to know the population of the coloniser, so that they can get an understanding of how many soldiers to keep in the defence force?

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Satellite photos?

You can easily get an estimate of the number of buildings and especially vehicles, which tell you two important things. Not to mention that as a matter of course the first thing to do is photograph everything that looks like a piece of military equipment, which has been a purpose of satellite photography from the beginning.

Various kinds of countries get paranoid about letting people have maps or accurate geographic data. This makes very little difference militarily but causes real inconvenience for the locals.

Besides, nobody wages wars for labour exploitation any more. It's all about what's under the ground.

torginus 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, spy sat tech today is likely good enough to track every single person that steps outside in the FoV of the sat in real time.

nsjdkdkdk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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