Would the data from this satellite be freely available to the public? I couldn't see anything obvious

jandrewrogers an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Unlikely. EU countries are consistently restrictive about access to this kind of data. Even when it is available, it often has odd restrictive licensing. This is an area where the US, with its liberal data access policies, is far ahead of Europe.

Something else to keep in mind is that the data products are extremely large. It would be expensive to give the public access. I used to host these types of data sets for EU countries. The workload just from authorized users is resource intensive, it doesn't scale cheaply. (I once woke up to find a metaphorical smoking crater where my server racks were because an authorized user shared his credentials with a few friends overnight.)

	▲	Propelloni an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Isn't EUMETSAT data usually under CC-by-SA 3.0? So all you have to do is to register with them and get your client ID for API access, or are there more hoops to jump through?
	▲	mulcyber an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I don't know what you mean. Data from the Copernicus program has always been fully available, served with a nice web UI, API for both near real time data and archives. It's the best source of open satellite data by far. As for the licensing, I never actually looked it up, so maybe you're right.

▲

beklein 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As far as I can tell, they say: "Mission control and data distribution are managed by EUMETSAT." They have published their own blog post here: https://www.eumetsat.int/features/see-earths-atmosphere-neve...

There they say that: "Observations made by MTG-S1 will feed into data products that support national weather services …". So I guess there will be no simple, publicly available REST API or so... but if anybody finds anything, let us know here :)

▲

jcattle 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://user.eumetsat.int/api-definitions/data-store-downloa...

	▲	jahller 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		nice find. so you need a client_id to access the API

▲

davedx 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most weather data isn't generally available by easy to query REST API's (at least not at the original sources). One side project I had I wanted to use NOMADs data, and it was quite a grind downloading and processing the raw datasets into something usable at an application level (or viable to expose via an API).

▲

pastage 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As most EU projects yes. There was test data released last year to get you started.

https://user.eumetsat.int/resources/user-guides/getting-star...

▲

SirHumphrey 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, at least in my experience with EU projects, they tend to be much more restrictive with data sharing than equivalent US institutions: e.g. a lot of paid EUMET data has publicly available NOAA equivalents - though usually of worse quality.

▲

pastage 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes! That government agencies data is PD is a nice feature of US law, we should implement that in EU.

▲

wolvoleo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Try to ask the NRO for their images and see how you go :)

	▲	dylan604 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Intelligence gathering data vs weather data. Yeah, that's the same thing.

▲

stiray 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not Public Domain, TD - Taxpayers Domain. :)

	▲	3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		[deleted]

▲

bayindirh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Take a look at https://zenodo.org/communities/eu/

Yes, it's not everything, but it's a start.

▲

IshKebab 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure why you're being down-voted. US weather models are free. EU models are not.

	▲	tcumulus 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Depends on which model. Only really the ECMWF weather model is not fully free. The German, French, Dutch, ... models are all free (regional and global models). Of course, these global models are generally less accurate than ECMWF, still ECMWF has a lot of free data available too. US models are also freely available, and quite easy to work with (as opposed to some European ones).

▲

graemep 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It is not an EU project. It is an ESA and EUMETSAT project. Neither is an EU organisation. Both have multiple non-EU members, and I do not think all EU countries are members of either.

▲

pbhjpbhj 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There was a good CCC talk on pulling images from weather sats (and data from other satellites) - https://youtu.be/fM5w7bFNvWI?si=Dq6S6nYOE_frAd7b

It's been done before, but this was a great talk imo.

▲

jcattle 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, it will be freely available to the public

▲

bitschubser_ 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess you will be able to access the data with copernicus (usually thy even provide raw L0 data)

	▲	cess11 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If they'll publish it through Copernicus, it'll probably show up here: https://browser.dataspace.copernicus.eu/

▲

plantain 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Definitely not in anything like realtime, maybe an archive. There's a licence fee of 8000EUR/yr to access real-time EUMETSAT data. Welcome to Europe, where you pay for everything twice.

	▲	vidarh 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There's an 8k license for "recommended" (not "core", which is free under CC-BY-4.0 for all purposes) data if you are a service provider or broadcaster: https://user.eumetsat.int/resources/user-guides/data-registr... There are also fees in some other circumstances, but not for "personal, educational, research" use.
	▲	pantalaimon 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		lame, with GOES-18 you can just download the latest full disk image in real time. Makes for a nifty desktop background when combined with a systemd user timer that fetches the current picture of the earth every 15 minutes. https://www.goes-r.gov/multimedia/dataAndImageryImagesGoes-1...
	▲	anfogoat 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Hah! I don't believe this for a second. No, you need the 8k, a business entity (at the very least), five different licenses of some sort, and then some form of accreditation.