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danny_codes 12 hours ago

Tesla isn’t a market leader in any of these things. It’s a decent shop, but not a leader in any of these things you’ve mentioned.

vtail 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I would argue that it is a leader in vision-only FSD, which is useful for both self-driving and robots.

amanaplanacanal 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Only if you are confusing FSD and actually autonomous. Which is basically just a bait and switch on Musk's part. FSD is whatever Musk says it is, actually autonomous is another thing entirely.