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mayama 14 hours ago

> China is hyper-capitalist.

China is one party system, where CPC controls and owns production, policy, finance and even consumption levers.

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incr_me 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> CPC controls and owns production, policy, finance and even consumption levers.

These terms are useless for distinguishing anything -- what you said can be said about literally any capitalist state.

> China is one party system

This is also relatively uninteresting. There have been many countries where a single party has nominally remained in power for about as long as the CCP has. That Deng Xiaoping's coup occurred without nominally dismantling the party makes the "one party system" distinction a superficial one.

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mayama 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> These terms are useless for distinguishing anything -- what you said can be said about literally any capitalist state.

CPC mandates and gets seats on highest boards of companies, combines IP research across civil military, is both producer and consumer of products etc. Look at China's civil military fusion policy on the latest iteration of how they are doing this. In china there is no separate 3-4 branches of govt like in most places. CPC controls all legislative, executive, judiciary, military and private company boards and financial capital.

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incr_me 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Again, just about everything you said applies to the U.S. state and its relations to private firms. Regardless of all that, profits accrue to private owners, investment decisions are determined by profit, and labor is hired and disciplined via market relations. All of the political relations you listed only marginally modify capitalist relations; the law of value still operates.

	▲	mayama 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		One emperor in US state doesn't control legislative, executive, judiciary, military and private company boards and financial capital. The way you have to look at China it is an empire with bit of communism and capitalism. If the mandate of heaven is favorable emperor controls everything, otherwise power diffuses a little among the emperor coterie.