| ▲ | Retric 16 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Musk would love to be selling several billion dollars per year of model S/X sales, the issue is they aren’t that competitive with other cars in the luxury segment thus the falling sales numbers. Tesla’s doesn’t really have a complex strategy at this point, they are getting squeezed out of the high end by legacy automakers where their lower cost batteries don’t matter as much. They are absolutely fucked on the low end as soon as Chinese cars enter the picture. So self driving is really the only option to sell any long term upside to keep the stock from tanking. It’s not a very convincing argument, but you play the hand your dealt. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | runako 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> getting squeezed out of the high end by legacy automakers where their lower cost batteries don’t matter as much. They are absolutely fucked on the low end as soon as Chinese cars enter the picture. The deep irony here is that after ~15 years of trying ti differentiate from the legacy American automakers, they land in a very similar competitive position. Chinese EVs are in the process of running the table outside the protectionist markets of the EU + US/Canada. Eventually those protective barriers will fall as they protect a relatively small number of citizens by taxing the majority. It remains to be seen whether the US and European domestic producers will survive. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ted_dunning 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You may have to play the hand you have, but Musk was the dealer and he is still losing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | loeg 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What's their competition on the high end? Porsche, Cadillac? Do Rivian or Genesis count? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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