I like to think about this story from years ago when Nintendo wasn't doing so well and there was talk of layoffs

"Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts"

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/nintendo-ceos-refusal-t...

I realize these companies aren't identical, but interesting to compare approaches. I also expect Amazon hires and fires more easily instead of growing more slowly and steadily.

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_vqpz 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Bear in mind Nintendo has ~0.005% of the employees Amazon does

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caminante 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's also ... Nintendo's share price was stagnant, Japanese business culture...

FWIW, 8,000 (nintendo) / 1,600,000 (Amazon) is 0.005, so 0.5%.

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bgirard 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Revenue per corporate employee are both ~1.5m/corp employee. I think it really comes down to how the company is managed and culture.

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socalgal2 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Nintendo Japan pays its engineers ~$62k a year

https://www.portal.e2r.jp/fixurl/nintendo_career_job/id/4/2?...

Amazon starts at 3x that and goes up

https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries

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virtue3 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some additional context to explain the numbers:

Game industry in general pays like shit - japanese software engineering pays even worse, so double negative modifiers on salaries in this comparison.

source: worked in games, worked at japanese tech company with us division.

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no_wizard 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You need to compare the US division to get a more accurate comparison. Nintendo US pays quite well.

	▲	socalgal2 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don't not. The person making the claim they weren't going to fire anyone was the president of Nintendo Japan

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notyourwork 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Corp or total? Amazon employees a lot of labor for fulfillment centers and other labor jobs.

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malfist 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you exclude non-corporate it's only ~300k.

	▲	nielsbot 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Wow.. that sounds like a huge number..

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WheatMillington 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Only off by a factor of 100.

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HDThoreaun 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nintendo stock is up 7.5x since 1998, compare that to amazon which is up like 200x. Nintendo shareholders would be pissed about its performance if they were american, cant say how Japanese feel about it given cultural differences.

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msabalau 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, sure, starting from 1998 just a year after Amazon went public, when it was still just a glorified online bookstore, is the most relevant and honest comparison one could make to Nintendo.

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etchalon 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nintendo shareholders seem to have a fundamentally different value set.

I'd argue it's a better one.

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HDThoreaun 10 hours ago | parent [-]

not better for making money

	▲	citizenkeen 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yes, that’s the point.
	▲	Imustaskforhelp 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> not better for making money I guess this is part of the problem. There is a term for this & it's called greed in such sense. I will admit that I would love juicy returns on my investments as well but this doesn't make me not (admire?) the value set that Nintendo shareholders might have. But I do feel like the fact that such options exist where pure capitalist greed can operate is the issue in the first place because if you have this option, then it becomes too lucrative for many to ignore not realizing the inner costs (like currently the AI bubble weights but also before that the moral and social implications of something like amazon let's say where workers had to pee in bottles and were so anti against Union that people were shocked when its videos were released in Youtube and effectively has really impacted all the local shops in your local communities impacting the income of members of your local community. I guess some sort of regulatory action should be called out on but the govt. is lobbied by these mega-corps again as well so :/ Although that being said, Nintendo's really price jacking and becoming EA. and unironically EA is having a turnover and (actually listening to users?)