I have read the Obama era numbers are inflated because they counted turn aways at the border.

It’s also a little interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

He got tons of pushback from the left. He was just able to weather his party’s fringe in ways Republicans have not.

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exo762 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For the same reason Nixon was able to establish OSHA without a ton of pushback.

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gedy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Team sports basically. And when you point out double standards, you got slammed as some "both sides" guy from the other team pretending to be a centrist.

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hypeatei 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is a delusional take. For starters, there was criticism from lefties against Obama. Second, Obama didn't use ICE as a secret police force and send them into his political opponents' cities to punish them for wrongthink. You cannot tell me with a straightface that ICE in their current capacity is "just enforcing immigration laws"

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gedy an hour ago | parent [-]

I think you're assuming way too much about my point and jumping to conclusions, QED

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		What was your point? You mentioned "double standards" and "team sports" as if the Trump and Obama admins were comparable with their use of ICE. If you wanted to make a more detailed point, then do that but as your comment stands, it is just a useless bothsides-ism.