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renewiltord 7 hours ago

Mark Zuckerberg’s Great Manager Flattening has definitely spread down the chain to other organizations.

Irrespective of the difference between organizations they hired after Meta hired and they fired in the same way as Meta after Meta fired. The children did not know that they were following the piper. The piper knew.

Everyone thinks themselves unique and historic. e.g. Balenciaga will say their new logo is inspired by Modernism and so on, but really Apple made what is considered modern mass-market premium and this so-called pioneering fashion brand is just an Apple brand copycat as far as their logo.

Everything is downstream of American culture. It's why people the world over kneel before football games. Sadly, this is even true of American culture.

skrebbel 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not convinced ASML leadership is very focused on what's going on at Meta. The organizations are incomparable, except if you zoom out so far that all you see is "big" and "tech" (plus I'd wager that the average ASML'er would chuckle at calling Meta a technology company at all).

arethuza 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Management consultant firms propagate these ideas - even if they had nothing to do with the original implementation.

uxcolumbo 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

ASML is a net positive for the world. Scientists pushing technology forward. Read about how they achieved EUV lithography, what an amazing feat.

META is a net negative for the world. Its leadership prioritizes profit over user safety (e.g. not protecting children), it allowed democracies to be undermined by boosting misinformation and social division.

flyinglizard 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Whatsapp is a strong net positive. This is the world’s communication network (I’m counting US out because it is counting itself out)

menaerus 5 hours ago | parent [-]

WhatsApp was not developed by Meta. They just bought it. That said, I don't think Meta/FB is a net-negative, far from it. They contributed back to the community with high quality infra-level software.

uxcolumbo an hour ago | parent [-]

Sometimes we in the tech community need to poke our heads out of our tech silos.

Once you do, you will see how much societal damage Meta has caused under Zuck's leadership.

menaerus an hour ago | parent [-]

In that regard I fully agree. My view was merely from a technical perspective.

uxcolumbo 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

And I agree with you. There are many great tech folks at Meta who released some great open source projects.

It's the leadership that's the problem.

bayindirh 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Mark's and Meta's total business knowledge and experience is comparably a small drop w.r.t. ASML's ocean of knowledge and heritage (considering Philips' involvement in it, too).