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15155 3 hours ago

Invariably someone will shoot back with "citizen children of illegal immigrants."

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defrost 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, that happens a lot despite Court orders to the contrary.

ICE has also deported full adult citizens, eg: Pedro Guzman, Mark Lyttle, etc.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guzman

* https://www.acluofnorthcarolina.org/press-releases/court-rec...

Currently there's a running problem simply having access to the names and files of those that disappear into the ICE Gulag.

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15155 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How many other developed countries in the world allow tourists to unconditionally birth citizens?

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trhway an hour ago | parent [-]

allow to birth? Only God does that. US does entice tourists by granting citizenship to anybody born on US territory. If you don't like it - change the Constitution. If you aren't changing it, then you want it for some reason.

Edit: to the commenter below - what "moral" has to do with the Constitution provision? I mean beside the general understanding that Constitution is a law and following law is in general a moral thing, and that US Constitution was generally an attempt to write a good moral thing.

	▲	zahlman an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I first have to ask: do you personally think it makes sense that couples can enter the US illegally, remain in the US illegally until a child is born, and have that child automatically become a citizen? Do you think it is moral? Why? But just to clarify, GP was asking you whether that particular path to citizenship exists in other developed countries.

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zahlman an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> ICE has also deported full adult citizens, eg: Pedro Guzman, Mark Lyttle, etc.

Per your sources, these happened in 2007-2008, so that hardly seems relevant to the current discussion. Trump is not responsible for law enforcement overreaches that occurred under GWB.

> Currently there's a running problem simply having access to the names and files of those that disappear into the ICE Gulag.

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.