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heavyset_go 3 hours ago

> Is stuff really as bad as it looks or are media somehow exaggerating things?

If you think what you've seen is bad, consider how bad the stuff you don't see is, and then consider how bad it is for those who aren't the type to post on HN.

0xDEAFBEAD 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Also consider that there are 340 million people in the US. With that sort of population size, you can construct whatever narrative you want out of daily video clips of 1-in-a-million events.

>the type to post on HN.

When's the last time you saw a Trump supporter on this site? The userbase here is considerably further left than a very left-wing state such as California. That will very much be reflected in what gets posted here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46791909

archievillain 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

California isn't "very left-wing". It's liberal, centre-left if you're being kind. The democrats are a centre-right party with some mildly-leftist pockets of members.

seanmcdirmid an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Most techies are libertarians and/or moderates. They definitely live in liberal hot spots, but they aren’t going out of their way to address social wrongs and protest. Heck, most Californians are moderate, mostly concerned about making money and living the good life, the only reason they are called liberal at all is because Pete Wilson alienated most of the states Hispanics from the Republican Party in an ill planned illegal immigration witch hunt. It didn’t just go from Reagan to Newsom overnight, the change was mostly for anti-racism reasons.

California is also hardly a far left state, it still has more trump voters than Texas.

0xDEAFBEAD an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think HN is representative of techies, especially not when discussing politics.

heavyset_go an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> When's the last time you saw a Trump supporter on this site?

Today, several. They made themselves known in several threads related to recent events.

It's against the guidelines to call out posts/posters, but you can use the HN Algolia to list the most popular threads from this week/month and you'll see plenty of them.

0xDEAFBEAD an hour ago | parent [-]

Which guideline? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I think it should be fine for you to link a few "I support Trump" comments from the past week? Note that believing the Trump administration is correct on a particular issue, or that they are being unfairly criticized, is not the same as advocating that people vote for Trump. I wasn't able to find anything I would consider actual Trump support from a quick skim of recent threads. I don't believe I've ever seen it on HN.

4ggr0 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

unrelated tangent, sorry. i agree with your comment, just ranting/venting about a detail.

> a very left-wing state such as California.

seeing any US state being described as "very left-wing" is interesting to me, think it just shows how different these views are depending on who you ask. i'd describe California as Centrist. sure, socially open, no issue with sexuality or heritage. but also, free markets, corpo power, $$$, generally pro-system. the Orange is disliked heavily, but after all it's not the system which is the problem, it's the Orange!

> The userbase here is considerably further left

can't agree, from my own experiences of discussing political topics on here. again, socially open, free minds, sure. but positive towards Silicon Valley, VC-funding, investments and a general lean towards Imperialism(for freedom, of course, not the bad kind). yes, overtly racist comments get downvoted until they're dead.

"further left than very left-wing" could be the description of an anarcho-communist, self-hosted mastodon instance, not a US state.

to end on a funny note, https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAfP-2...

sorry for being pedantic, and maybe wrong. please show me y'alls POV, i'm not saying that i'm right, it's just kind of my opinion, man.

0xDEAFBEAD 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

>seeing any US state being described as "very left-wing" is interesting to me, think it just shows how different these views are between US and Euro. i'd describe California as Centrist. sure, socially open, no issue with sexuality or heritage. but also, free markets, corpo power, $$$, generally pro-system. the Orange is disliked heavily, but after all it's not the system which is the problem, it's the Orange!

California is considering a wealth tax which is already causing billionaires to flee the state.

>to end on a funny note, https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAfP-2...

It's the Europeans who want us to ship more weapons to Ukraine.

4ggr0 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

> It's the Europeans who want us to ship more weapons to Ukraine.

well, you chose the one "good" example, where weapons are actually used for defense against a different Imperialist. what about the money going towards the Palestinian Genocide? what about other wars/invasions/operations, started or backed by Democrats/Bi-Partisan support.

> California is considering a wealth tax

a one-time tax of 5%, bunch of commies! some decades ago, wealth tax was a high, double-digit number.

even so, do you think a one-time 5% wealth tax is enough to be called very left-wing?