| ▲ | bandrami 4 hours ago |
| I'm bearish on AI creating working software but bullish on AI doing this kind of thing |
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| ▲ | cryptonector 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| AI is definitely creating working software. It's also leading people to submit hallucinations as security vulns in open source. I've had to deal with some of them. |
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| ▲ | lmm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Define "working". It's creating software that does what someone wanted some of the time, sure. | | |
| ▲ | teiferer 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Look around you. Our industry has cultivated that this kind of software is everywhere. | | |
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| ▲ | bandrami 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nah, if that were true there would be a lot more new software available. What's it working at is making developers feel busy, which is itself a worthwhile task. | | |
| ▲ | rascul 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe it's available but you don't realize it. | | | |
| ▲ | dboreham 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There may be some other limiting factors on the rate of generation of new useful software. E.g. money to market it, humans to specify it, perhaps there's enough software already... |
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| ▲ | soulofmischief 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Are you unable to create working software with frontier models? |
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| ▲ | bandrami 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I am, though it always takes me longer than just writing it myself because I have to fix so much (which may be a function of the kind of software I write). But more importantly the development team I support as an admin absolutely loves their agents or whatever they're being called this week and yet isn't giving me stuff that I can move into operations any faster than they were a year ago. | | |
| ▲ | soulofmischief 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | What industry, and what kind of software? Your assessment was generally spot on a year ago, but things have changed dramatically in the last quarter, so I'm curious how fresh this assessment is. | | |
| ▲ | bandrami 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, multiple types of software. The avionics simulation software we make isn't really a candidate for AI both because of procurement requirements and the fact that as of this month (we do check periodically) no LLM really gets how to do realtime Linux processes (this may be downstream of the fact that most writing about this topic on the Web is catastrophically wrong). The stuff we can use AI on is just generic customer-facing web schlock and it sure looks like we're trading dev time for integration time for what ends up being a wash. | |
| ▲ | what 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why don’t you post some of the software the AI has produced for you in the last quarter? Shouldn’t be a problem since it works so well now. |
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