janalsncm 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is accurate, but the important point is that threatening people with wrenches isn’t scalable in the way mass surveillance is.

The problem with mass surveillance is the “mass” part: warrantless fishing expeditions.

	▲	OhMeadhbh 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		hunh. we haven't even started talking about stingray, tracking radios and so forth.

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fruitworks 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it is difficult to wrench someone when you do not know who they are

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heavyset_go 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Someone knows who they are and they can bash different skulls until one of them gives them what they're looking for.

	▲	fruitworks 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Who is someone?

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pixl97 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean they have a lot of tools to figure out who you are if they catch you at a rally or something like that. Cameras and facial identification, cell phone location tracking and more. What they also want is the list of people you're coordinating with that aren't there.