> willingly unlock their phones

Or they are running any mainstream iPhone or Android phone, they've unlocked the phone at least once since their last reboot, and the police have access to graykey. Not sure what the current state of things is, since we rely on leaked documents, but my take-away from the 2024 leaks was GrapheneOS Before First Unlock (BFU) is the only defense.

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nosuchthing 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Where has there been any allegations iPhone before first unlock has been bypassed?

GrapheneOS isn't quite as secure in the real world. Pixels continue to have baseband and OOBConfig exploits that allow pushing zero interaction updates, or system memory access.

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lugu 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://freedom.press/digisec/blog/new-leaks-on-police-phone...

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subscribed 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think locked[1] GrapheneOS is considered vulnerable for AFU attack anymore: https://www.androidauthority.com/cellebrite-leak-google-pixe...

Notice even unlocked doesn't allow FFS.

[1] assuming standard security settings of course.

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dvtkrlbs 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't latest iPhones also have similar security profile on BFU. The latest support table I saw from one of the vendors was also confirming this.

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ActorNightly 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>is the only defense.

Or you know, the 2nd amendment.

Id be willing to bet that ICE would have a much smaller impact if they would be met with bullets instead of cameras. In the end, what ICE is doing doesn't really matter to Trump, as long as MAGA believes that things are being done, even if nothing is being done, he doesn't care.

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archy_ 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Never fear, the 2nd amendments days are numbered too. Trump just said 'You can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns' (the 'in' in this context being 'outside')

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-you-cant-have-gu...

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ActorNightly 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I really hope he implements this, because we are gonna see mental gymnastics on the Olympic level from the right wing commentators.

	▲	dpkirchner 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They already continue to support him after proposing (twice!) taking people's guns without due process.

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nextlevelwizard 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fed

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ActorNightly 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah yes, there is the uncomfortable feeling deep in your gut that you suppress, but a part of you knows it can happen.

I hope you realize that civil unrest is coming. Maybe not in a month. Maybe not even in a year. But at some point, after Trump fucks with elections and installs himself as a 3d term president, and the economy takes a nose dive as companies start pulling out of US, peoples savings are destroyed, and states start being more separationist, you are gonna see way worse things.

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nextlevelwizard an hour ago | parent [-]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fedpost#English

	▲	ActorNightly an hour ago \| parent [-]
		i know what fedposting means. Im just saying your reaction to it is predictable

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mrguyorama 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nothing about the 2nd amendment legalizes shooting law enforcement officers.

This has always been the absurdity of the moronic claims of the 2nd amendment being to overthrow government tyranny: You may own the gun legally, but at no point will your actions be legal. If you've decided the government needs to be overthrown, you are already throwing "law" out the window, even if you have a valid argument that the government you are overthrowing has abandoned the constitution.

Why the fuck do you need legal guns to commit treason? Last I checked, most government overthrows don't even involve people armed with private rifles!

If you are overthrowing the government, you will need to take over local police stations. At the moment, you no longer need private arms, and what you are doing isn't legal anyway.

Meanwhile, every single fucking time it has come up, the gun nuts go radio silent when the government kills the right person who happens to own a gun. Every. Single. Time.

It took minutes for the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" people who raised a million dollars for Kyle Rittenhouse to defend himself for driving to a protest in a different state while armed to the teeth to of course get to shoot someone to turn around and say "Actually bringing a gun to a protest makes you a terrorist and you need to be shot". Minutes. They have also put up GoFundMes for the guy who executed that man.

If you are too scared to stand up to your government without a fucking rifle, you have never been an actual threat to your government, and they know that.

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32527823634 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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dylan604 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's a strange take. It also feels like exactly what they are hoping to have happen. Encouraging gun violence is not something condoned, so not sure why you are posting that nonsense. Are you an agitator?

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ActorNightly 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Strange take? Are you kidding me?

The second amendment is literally in the constitution for the EXACT reason where if a governing entity decides to violate the security and freedoms of people, the people have the right to own weapons and organize a militia.

Plus nobody really needs to die. Having enough people point guns at them is going to make them think twice about starting shit. Contrary to popular belief, ICE agents aren't exactly martyrs for the cause. There are already groups of people armed outside protecting others, for this exact reason.

You are the actual fed lmao.

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convolvatron 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wish we would stop using that word 'agitator', while I understand the subjective idea that someone is just trying to stir up trouble, it kind of undermines the idea that we should be able to express opinions no matter how distasteful.

and apparently it now a perfectly valid reason for the state to execute someone without being charged or a trial.

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dylan604 10 hours ago | parent [-]

anyone promoting for people to start showing up and shooting at law enforcement, even if it is ICE, is what if not an agitator?

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convolvatron 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

where is the line? I was fine with the word until it started being used to justify killing innocents

	▲	dylan604 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Then be upset with them for misappropriating the word. I'm using it just fine, thank you very much!

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unethical_ban 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I consider the term to be a label of a bad-faith actor vs. someone who holds genuine conviction that the "agitating action" is a good thing.

A Chinese bot farmer who says we should be shooting each other? Agitator.

A neighbor who says "If I see LEO murder someone, I'm taking them on"? Not an agitator.

	▲	dylan604 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> A neighbor who says "If I see LEO murder someone, I'm taking them on"? Not an agitator. That's not what was said here though