> The X11 diehards will go the way of the SysV-init diehards; some weird minority

I upvoted your general response but this line was uncalled for. No need to muddy the waters about X11 -> Wayland with the relentlessly debated, interminable, infernal init system comparison.

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patjensen 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Just wait for systemd-wayland.

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LeFantome 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Systemd does not have to force Wayland as it is already going the other way. Both GNOME and KDE are requiring systemd now.

	▲	cf100clunk 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		This discussion is originally about xfce, which does not require systemd now.

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michaelmrose 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gnome?