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| ▲ | woooooo 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | OP said "buying TikTok was about hiding information from people", and the people who bought TikTok are trying to suppress certain information on TikTok. Whether you or I think that's effective or not is up for debate, I also avoid social media, but OP made a statement about intentions. (And, aside, the current intentions appear far more pointed and ideological than when it was owned by ByteDance as a lottery winner with a surprise overseas success, optimizing for youth engagement.) | | |
| ▲ | ericmay 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to. Restating the OP ^ I don't know exactly what the OP intended, and they are welcome to clarify, but based on the words above I read it as selling TikTok is a means of suppressing information that the rest of the world has access to from Americans. I disagree with the notion because what matters is whether or not information is suppressed holistically, not whether or not information is suppressed in a limited manner on a platform. If you think it's a problem, by the way, you should reach out to the EU, China, India, and every other major government that influences what content is posted on social media platforms including but not limited to TikTok. If you want to argue the US obtaining control of the content from TikTok in America is tantamount to information suppression, you can only do so by also arguing it's true only for people who use TikTok. In which case it's an improvement anyway since the CCP is no longer influencing content. |
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| ▲ | giraffe_lady 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The chinese government has never physically assaulted me or my neighbors, never used tear gas around the elementary school my family attends. The united states government has. It's interesting to me that you're so certain about your threat model here but I don't share it. | | |
| ▲ | ericmay 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The chinese government has never physically assaulted me or my neighbors, never used tear gas around the elementary school my family attends. Ok, well here where I live the government has never physically assaulted me or my neighbors, nor used tear gas around the elementary school my friends and family members children attend. But the government is clearing my streets of snow, gave me an opportunity to get an education, and generally helps make sure my life isn't so bad. On the other hand, the CCP (and others) has created lots of fake accounts, engaged in paying off people to help incite riots, and is responsible for algorithmically promoting divisive content which has caused people to go out and riot, shoot at each other, become white nationalist goons or antifa goons, and helped get Donald Trump elected. Donald Trump himself claims TikTok helped him get elected, he was wildly popular on the platform. > It's interesting to me that you're so certain about your threat model here but I don't share it. It's not that interesting, and this isn't warranted. I don't even know what you mean by threat model, and you never asked, so there was never an opportunity for it to be shared. Please don't wantonly levy suspicion here. | | |
| ▲ | giraffe_lady 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Ok, well here where I live the government has never physically assaulted me or my neighbors, Lucky for you I hope you can keep saying that. But uh, where you live didn't need to have a civil rights movement? Plain and simple I think americans, and the american government, and movements formed in america and made of americans, are far more likely to harm me than any foreign power and I act accordingly. In fact they already have! > On the other hand, the CCP (and others) has created lots of fake accounts, engaged in paying off people to help incite riots, and is responsible for algorithmically promoting divisive content which has caused people to go out and riot, shoot at each other, become white nationalist goons or antifa goons This is americans doing this to americans with the help of the american tech industry for the benefit of american elites. How have you come to lay the whole thing at chinese feet. I know... but do you know? You worried about the wrong propaganda my man. |
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