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hathym 8 hours ago

freedom of speech my a*

lingrush4 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Freedom of speech has literally never prevented a private company from controlling the content on its platform.

michaelt 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Platform allows criticism of a government.

That government forces the platform to be sold to a billionaire ally.

Platform’s new owner immediately bans criticism of said government.

“Not a first amendment issue, it’s a private company”

eatsyourtacos 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"private company"

Ah you mean an app that the US forced to be sold to a private company that certainly agreed behind the scenes to certain terms of the government?

Yeah.. completely independent private company...

mothballed 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It did before the internet. See Marsh v. Alabama where publicly accessible ( private sidewalk) on private property was ruled the people there still could exercise 1A rights and could not be trespassed for doing so even if the owners forbid it.

voidUpdate 6 hours ago | parent [-]

How does freedom of speech allow you to walk somewhere you have been forbidden from walking? Does that mean you can just go into any building you want and use your 1A rights to not be arrested?

mothballed 6 hours ago | parent [-]

You can read the case. Basically it was a privately owned public space that they could have been otherwise trespassed from, but not for the reason of their speech. Since the reason for the trespass was their speech, it was prohibited. They were not otherwise "forbidden" from walking there were it not they expressed something that was disapproved of.

A weak analogy (I know analogy are never allowed here because "they're not the same") is that you can fire someone at will. Unless it turns out you fired them because they are black (yes I know being black is much different than expressing an opinion). It didn't mean you can't fire them at will, just that you couldn't for that specific protected reason.

Although at this point we're well well past the goalpost of "Freedom of speech has literally never prevented a private company from controlling the content on its platform" and down into the weeds of how it happened. The case clearly prevented the company from fully controlling the content of its sidewalk platform.

SV_BubbleTime 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well… how do you reconcile that probably-truth with the Twitter Files? What do you call it when they private company censors at the demand of the government?

buellerbueller 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

These twitter files:

"After the first set of files was published, various technology and media journalists said that the reported evidence demonstrated little more than Twitter's policy team struggling with difficult decisions, but resolving such matters swiftly. Some conservatives said that the documents demonstrated what they called Twitter's liberal bias...

In June 2023, lawyers working for Twitter contested many of the claims made in the Twitter Files in court. According to CNN, 'the filing by Musk's own corporate lawyers represents a step-by-step refutation of some of the most explosive claims to come out of the Twitter Files and that in some cases have been promoted by Musk himself.'

"

The nothingburger Twitter Files?