To answer the parent question, no not even close.

TSA direct costs, passenger time wasted, flights missed, items confiscated.

All so no bombs on planes. But somehow also no bombs at sports events or music concerts, or on trains or subways, or courthouses or....

So the TSA is either stunningly successful or a complete waste. I'd argue a complete waste, but hey, everyone in a TSA uniform drawing a paycheck us entitled to a different opinion.

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reeredfdfdf 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's just not bombs that are a danger. You really don't want anyone to set the airplane on fire either, or start shooting people or holes into the fuselage.

AFAIK America has had plenty of shootings, and probably arson attacks too over that time period.

	▲	bawolff 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Other then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Northern_Airlines_Flight... how often has anyone ever set fire to a plane (not counting bombs that caused fires). Is there even a single other example. I agree on guns, but you can probably deal with that with much lower intensity security.

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closewith 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> But somehow also no bombs at sports events or music concerts, or on trains or subways, or courthouses or....

Boston marathon? The Madrid train bombings? 7/7? Ariana Grande?

Airport security has been stunningly successful.

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Fervicus an hour ago | parent [-]

But we don't have intense security checks at concerts, trains, or at marathon events as a result, do we?

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lagniappe an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't know where you live, but where I live, we do.

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Fervicus 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've traveled all over Europe and North America and have taken a lot of trains. Not once did I have to remove my shoe, scan my baggage, or had any kind of liquid restrictions.

	▲	matwood 4 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Concerts and things like sporting events in the US typically require any bags to be clear and only be of a certain size. They may also be checked. No outside liquids are typically allowed (mainly to avoid alcohol). Usually people are at least wanded to prevent weapons, but sometimes metal detectors are setup.
	▲	lagniappe 31 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You're very fortunate, you'll have to teach us your ways some day