> “It’s the Valley-or-bust mentality that breaks the ecosystem and really hurts Canada,” Gomez said.

Canadian pride isn't enough to keep a company in Canada. There are real and significant economic incentives to move elsewhere. That said, it's disappointing that YC no longer supports Canadian companies.

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tptacek 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Presumably it continues to support them the same way it supports 386 companies headquartered in Europe, 218 in South Asia, 217 in Latin America, 106 in Southeast Asia, 87 in Africa, 71 in MENA, 23 in East Asia, and 14 in Oceania, all locales where you previously had to do a flipped company structure to participate in YC.

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kdazzle 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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	▲	jonway 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Well he got mad about the Canadian version of “A letter to our colleagues” and then endlessly harped on that in social media. Like, years and years later he got a board review, but it’s not like a “some stuff I tweeted” or some “opinions shared on social media”, it was trading on his professional credentials to ply a self-help business scheme among other stuff iirc
	▲	SirSavary 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Yes, because when you hold credentials granted by a board of professionals that require you to sign a code of ethics, using those credentials to amplify your personal opinions comes with accountability. To be specific: telling people "you're free to leave at any point" when they express concerns about humanity's impact on the planet is the kind of thing psychology boards take issue with, particularly when it comes from someone with a large platform and professional credentials in mental health.
	▲	greazy 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You are equating government audits with social media outrage. One is not like the other.

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mrtksn 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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PostOnce 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Economic incentives are only one of the many incentives weighing on the scales. There are others.

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garbawarb 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Like which?

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ooooppppppp 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Attractiveness to talent?

Fairly senior dev, US citizen here (20 years experience).

After what I've seen this past year, but more the past month, I will work for peanuts for a path to citizenship in Canada. US in 5 years is not a place I want to be, looking into all options and very serious.

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jleyank 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you have skills in one of the many categories, and with 20 years in tech you should, get the offer. Once armed with an offer from a Canadian company you can handle the visa at the border. For Quebec-based companies you have to have a handle on French but for the rest of Canada it's a skills and education based system for getting permanent residency.

	▲	Joel_Mckay 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The wage difference for IT workers is often 3:1 or higher in the US economy, as Canada has 1/10th the population with higher ratios of university alumni. Starting a business in the USA is often far more lucrative, but people usually still incorporate in both countries for tax and liability reasons. Things like the Canadian youth tax-credits also mean anyone over 28 gets pushed down the list for entry-level positions. The US is far easier to find a reasonable job, and the cultural tradition of entrepreneurship is far better. =3

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garbawarb 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The lifestyle difference is real but the income difference is enough to sway most people to the US. If Canada can close the gap on that I'd say it can become an even more attractive place for global tech talent than the US because of its overall better livability.

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Roscius 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Live in Canada and work remotely into the US. Been doing it for the last 6 years...

	▲	Joel_Mckay 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Or be a digital nomad in a tropical paradise, and avoid the 46% income-tax rate. Depends how secure your position is I guess... =3

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anon291 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It is difficult to take anyone worried about the US seriously when their solution to protect themselves is to move to Canada.

Not saying anyone's right or wrong but the idea that, should America go psycho, Canada would somehow be okay is a pipe dream. Canada is essentially an outpost of the United States. Yes, I have Canadian family (even old stock "Loyalist" Canadian family) and they all feel the same way.

People need to be real.

If you actually want to be able to declare independence from America you'd need citizenship in a country with actual nuclear capability. France, the UK, China, etc

	▲	oooopppppppp 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's a step improvement: It gets you over the border to a comparable place while being close enough to family for now. The risk of "borders are secure now, nobody gets to leave" is non-zero in the US' future. The way political litmus tests are affecting civil rights here is scary as hell too. On the military angle, I'd much rather live in a country without nukes. But I'm willing to kick the nuclear blackmail risk can down the road, my own government's threats are way more immediate.