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pbreit 8 hours ago

Isn't it the opposite? Landing stress a sub-section of the runway while departures stress a larger portion?

I'd be surprised that a heavier plane on takeoff exerts more force on the runway than a lighter plane landing.

And as the departing plane goes faster, doesn't the lift take stress off the runway?

duskwuff 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> And as the departing plane goes faster, doesn't the lift take stress off the runway?

Only for a short period between rotation and liftoff. Most of the takeoff roll is spent building up horizontal speed; the pilot doesn't command the aircraft to pitch up before it's ready to lift off.

absurddoctor 6 hours ago | parent [-]

There will be lift almost as soon as the plane begins moving forward, reducing the weight of the plane, which would seem to reduce downward stress.

ExoticPearTree 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

You are half-right. Actually pilots push the stick forward to force the plane to stay on the ground until it reaches takeoff speed. If the plane would rotate naturally because od the air passing under the wings it would generate a lot of drag.

rtkwe 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Planes all start their take off from basically the same position and stress the whole runway, slowly lowering as lift increases, but at their highest weight.

tadfisher 8 hours ago | parent [-]

And this is because pilots are trained to keep their nose gear on the centerline, and there are relatively few aircraft types in use which receive the "heavy" after their flight number over ATC. So wheels are going to roll over the exact same tracks repeatedly.

krisoft 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> pilots are trained to keep their nose gear on the centerline

Funily I was learning to fly at a grass strip and we were told to vary our positioning left and right on the runway for exactly this reason. In practice it meant that as we were taxiing to the runway my instructor would tell me “Today we are taking off left/right of center to avoid damaging the grass too much.”

pc86 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's the same principle as walking on snow in normal shoes vs. snow shoes. Taking off is normal shoes, a lot of pressure concentrated at the very first part of the runway. Landing is snow shoes because it's distributed across more of the physical surface, and the plane weighs a lot less when it lands anyway.

tasty_freeze 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Watch the video. He says for long range flights, fuel is half of the total weight of the plane.