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rvnx 5 hours ago

In the US, yes, by the law, in principle.

In practice, you will have loss of clients, of investors, of opportunities (banned from Play Store, etc).

In Europe, on top of that, you will get fines, loss of freedom, etc.

amalcon 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Others responding to my speech by exercising their own rights to free speech and free association as individuals does not violate my right to free speech. One can make an argument that corporations doing those things (e.g. your Play Store example) is sufficiently different in kind to individuals doing it -- and a lot of people would even agree with that argument! It does, however, run afoul of current first amendment jurisprudence.

Either way, this is categorically different from China's policies on e.g. Tibet, which is a centrally driven censorship decision whose goal is to suppress factual information.

mgazzer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I see you trying to equalize the arugment, but it sounds like you are conflating rules, regulations and rights versus actual censorship.

Generally the West, besides recent Trump admins, we aren't censored about talking about things. The right-leaning folks will talk about how they're getting cancelled, while cancelling journalists.

China has history thats not allowed to be taught or learned from. In America, we just sweep it under an already lumpy rug.

- Genocide of Native americans in Florida and resulting "Manifest Destiny" genocide on aboriginals people - Slavery, and arguably the American South was entirely depedant on slave labour - Internment camp for Japanses families during the second world war - Students protesters shot and killed at Kent State by National Guards

epolanski 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> In Europe, on top of that, you will get fines, loss of freedom, etc.

What are you talking about?

rvnx 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I had prepared a long post for you, but at the end I prefer not to take the risk.

You may believe or not believe that such exist, even about very very recent historical facts, but even if you don't. Keep in mind that US is a very rare animal where freedom of speech is incredibly high compared to other countries.

The best link I can point you to without taking risk: https://www.cima.ned.org/publication/chilling-legislation/

tryauuum 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

one thing comes to mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial