There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT. They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations.

As a European I'm happy to use their product (and pay for it), I just ask one tiny little thing from them: build a better model with lower latency.

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dgxyz 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No. No one really gives a shit about AI other than the tech industry and vocal CEO culture which is just using it to bury recession and regular lay offs. Otherwise it's novelty value and frustration but no one is going to use it or pay enough for it to be viable as an economic backbone.

There are many more important things to consider. Like literally everything else society sits on top of.

	▲	carlosjobim 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		AI is great at translating, doing a task in seconds which would take days. For almost no cost. That is quite significant on a continent like Europe, with dozens of different languages.

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me_bx 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations.

What failed with Mistral?

Which anti-AI regulations are we talking about, and don't these apply to any solution distributed in the European Union, hence also to American ones?

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ddalex 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> build a better model with lower latency.

That's mighty impossible for the european mindset - people here are not so risk-eager as to through hundreds of billions on infrastructure for something that might return a profit.

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tormeh 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US capital markets are truly a wonder to behold. There's no way to replace that. For good and ill, you'd only get weird looks in Europe if you asked for €10 billion for an unproven business model in what's somehow also a competitive market.

To be fair this example does look a lot like insanity.

	▲	stackghost 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>There's no way to replace that. Nothing is truly irreplaceable

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yobbo 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is part of the answer.

I have a theory about the second part; European consumers have an even more suspicious view of "corporate overlords" if they are domestic/European than if they are American. Not because Americans are more trustworthy, but because they see Europeans as "anonymous masses" and are therefore more "neutral" to the internal struggles in Europe.

Signing up to a service owned by a European "dynastic" family, possibly in a neighbouring country, feels like more of a surrender of autonomy.

	▲	coredev_ an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Hasn't this also something to do with the cultural dominance that US have had over the EU? We considered US services more valuable just because they where from US. But that cultural dominance might not be as strong anymore, maybe because of social media/TikTok?

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dmytrish 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You don't have to love risk to build something you need.

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lm28469 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT

Before or after the bubble pops?

What does chatgpt has over competitors again? Besides a deranged ceo of course

	▲	Esophagus4 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Uhhh... 800m active users?

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stackghost 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT. They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations.

I think the idea of a Eurostack is more compelling: standard office productivity tools that aren't beholden to Microsoft, Apple, or Google. That means email, calendar, spreadsheets, word processing, slide decks, video conferencing.

Imagine if every government and corporation in the eurozone stopped paying for Windows licenses and O365 subscriptions.

LibreOffice exists, of course, but it lacks an alternative to Outlook and Teams/Zoom. It would benefit from a benevolent corporate sponsor with deeper pockets than TDF which AFAIK is purely volunteer-driven.

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oulipo2 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

1. ChatGPT is shit

2. We prefer anti-AI regulations and not having a stupid Musk indoctrinating half the country