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ahmeneeroe-v2 5 hours ago

>China has a much high pain tolerance than US citizens at least

Can you give some examples of why you think this? I really can't imagine how this would be true.

Best examples would be in last 25 years when they've had mass affluence.

icegreentea2 4 hours ago | parent [-]

China was able to sustain some pretty strict zero-COVID policies much longer - all the way to late 2022.

Pain tolerance might be the wrong term. Pain tolerance implies speaks to something intrinsic about a population, while really what we're looking at is how much discomfort a population can endure before it really agitates for policy/political change, and so it's much about how a population feels, as the tools available to the government to control, manage, deflect and address the pain/discomfort.

ahmeneeroe-v2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thanks for the response, agreed on the definition of "pain tolerance."

I do think that the US population is able to bear incredible levels of pain if it's packaged a certain way. Examples:

-20 year Global War on Terror which cost $6T+

-Healthcare costs which far outstrip other western nations, mostly paid for out of pocket, and which increase every year

-Opioid Crisis which killed more people than all our 20th century wars combined

-Lack of workplace protections, time off, etc which our peer nations enjoy

The Chinese have not dealt with any of these things, so yeah, they have more available capacity to manage new social disruptions. That said, Americans love war, so we could probably add another war without disrupting things too badly.

boelboel 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Chinese employees get less time off and many of them got less workplace protection.

The availability to good healthcare for many conditions in China is quite subpar compared to the US. They don't have many physicians. Their healthcare outcomes in most things are worse than those for Americans. Good example is their lung cancer morality rates.

Of course both these things are expected for a much poorer country.

aesch 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, I agree there is some manipulation of the narrative in the use of pain tolerance to describe China's citizenry. It is in the CCP's interest to convince their population that pain tolerance is a virtue, rather than allow an alternative narrative that China's citizens must suffer the decisions of the autocrats because they have no ability to influence change.