Resisting the ideology that only people with money can alter the city environment.

When you see an impressive sculpture or skyscraper you know a lot of resources were spent, you know the rich people here are rich. When you see an area with lots of graffiti, there may be many good or bad things about it, but you know the citizens are free.

I would hope graffitiers have respect to only draw on the mundane parts of the city, not on cool sculptures. And in my experience, that is true. Also they should not obscure windows or information signs.

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ZpJuUuNaQ5 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the cultural barrier preventing me from understanding this way of thinking is impenetrable to me. What a strange world, huh?

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komali2 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think that's very exciting for you, because imo it's very rarely we encounter truly challenging problems like this.

I understand that you prefer to make up your mind about street artists, but I can assure you as someone that used to hold the same opinion, that opinion is held from a place of unfamiliarity with the culture and the people in it. It was very enlightening for me to step out of my SF tech circle into the street art scene and talk to very, very different people. You may be different but I personally find it very important to challenge my thinking by talking to very different kinds of people.

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direwolf20 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you American? Freedom means the ability to do what you want. It doesn't mean owning guns.

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nmeofthestate 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not American, but I doubt being pro-graffiti is a universal American value. I suspect many Americans aren't that into it, given it makes the place look bad. Many Americans might think instead that you should only deface things you own.

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direwolf20 16 hours ago | parent [-]

I think it makes the place look like a place where people are free and not oppressed, which is nice.

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lostdog 15 hours ago | parent [-]

They are oppressed by their neighbors, who can scribble all over their home without consequences.

Have you had to clean off graffiti?

	▲	direwolf20 25 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Why would I have to clean it off?

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ZpJuUuNaQ5 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Are you American? Freedom means the ability to do what you want. It doesn't mean owning guns.

No, I am not, and I haven't mentioned guns or even hinted at the topic. Do whatever you want, but trying to purposefully destroy and smear the environment around you and claim it's an expression of freedom is ridiculous. It's just malicious, disgusting behavior that helps no one, serves no cause and has nothing to do with freedom.

	▲	recursive 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don't think most graffiti writers are trying to destroy their environment.

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socalgal2 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm surprised you don't understand it. Put your money where your mouth is. Let me come over and tag all your property.

	▲	komali2 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You would be doing so alongside tens of other artists, and then after a month or so I would whitewash the wall, and everyone would start up all over again. Such is street art. Kinda beautiful, how much effort people put into art they know will be gone or changed possibly within a couple days.