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montroser 8 hours ago

What are the some of the ways that tracks are monitored for fractures like this? It must have been pretty substantial in order to be described as "complete lack of continuity". Makes me think of literally electronic continuity tests -- are those ever used in this context? Or how about cameras mounted on trains using image processing? Or drones?

It seems a shame that a few other trains passed beforehand with this anomaly in place and yet it went undetected.

dkbrk 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You can look at the Wikipedia page on railway defect dectectors [0].

Under "rail break monitors" it mentions both electrical continuity and time-domain reflectometry can be used, and are most frequently used on high-speed tracks.

In addition, there are vast array of other detectors using acoustic sensors, strain gauges, accelerometers, cameras in the visible and infrared spectrum or laser measurement, that potentially could have detected an anomaly (i.e. damage to the wheels of other trains before the incident).

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Defect_detector

sigwinch28 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Measurement trains filled with cameras and LIDAR

For example, in the U.K.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Measurement_Train

jen729w 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Yellow

user_7832 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

LIDAR is good, but as another commenter pointed out, Ultrasonic Flaw Detection (USFD) is the gold standard for crack/flaw detection.

amelius 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are special trains with measurement equipment on board, but yes, it sounds to me like every train should be equipped with some basic sensors for anomaly detection.

1718627440 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The measurement trains drive slowly in the night.

Azrael3000 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Not necessarily, the measurement train my company develops can go up to 100 km/h and measure certain rail features every 5mm at that speed.

gambutin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AFAIK, one technique for monitoring cracks uses ultrasonic sensors. They send sound waves through the rails and detect cracks by analyzing reflected waves.

djoldman 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wheel Impact Load Detector.

It measures vertical forces in kips - (kilo-pounds-force, 1 KIP = 1,000 lbs)

They have these in the USA.

direwolf20 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

TFA indicates a 40cm gap — huge!

buildbot 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I suppose that counts/was caused by a fracture but almost a half meter of gap in the track is nuts. Like describing a limb that’s totally removed as a bone fracture.

Though conceivably the break was very small and a train impacting the slightly lifted rail just caused a good chunk of it to explode.

WarOnPrivacy 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Though conceivably the break was very small and a train impacting the slightly lifted rail just caused a good chunk of it to explode.

The crown (top) of the rail seems to be missing after the gap. The crown-less section then continues ~3 meters before it disappears behind the investigator on the left. IDK what that might indicate.

ref pic: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/ecb4/live/53924...

zidel 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The rail is laying on its side in that picture, so what is visible is the foot not the web.

edit: other angles of the same location here: https://youtu.be/DIQ4SrGSua0?t=1174

WarOnPrivacy 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

> The rail is laying on its side in that picture

Ah, I see it now. The marks from contact with the ties should have clued me in earlier.

kgwgk 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, the “fracture” (the problem was actually at a joint) was there for a while. The missing segment of rail was still there when the train arrived - the derailment affected only the last cars.

ThePowerOfFuet 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, that gap was created after the rail broke and the train derailed as a result.

The crack was in the weld, causing one side to sink and the wheel to hit the start of the next section of rail which was no longer welded to it, causing stress fractures to form in the rail which later caused that 40cm piece to break off.