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asveikau 2 hours ago

They sold us on a lie about the extent of the illegal immigrant "problem". It's numerically impossible to make the promises they made and not deport people who it's hard to argue should be deported.

Immigrants also commit crimes at fewer rates than US born people and crime is at all time lows. Yet they sold us for years on a crime moral panic and phantom "migrant crime".

So you said, propose a solution that also involves deporting people, and I will say NO. You are wanting to target a mostly fake problem.

belorn 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It is fairly well established that social economic status is the largest predictor for crime than any other predictor. In order for immigrants to commit crimes at a lower rate than US born people we would have to make the claim that immigrants has an average higher social economical status than US born people.

The statistics you are looking for is that the sum of all crimes is lower for immigrants than US born people. 13.8% of the US population are immigrant residents, so in order for the sum of immigration crime to be higher than US born people the rate would need to be close to 1000% larger, which it is not.

gunsle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That is literally not true in any way. Let’s see your immigrant crime stats.

Crime is at an all time low because liberal DAs like the one here in Minneapolis let repeat offenders off constantly because locking them up (enforcing the law fairly) would be racist.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/09/17/hennepin-county-to-...

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/courts-news/hennep...

Literally their arguments are that these people are from a disadvantaged background so they should be allowed to run around harming innocents, repeatedly. These crimes are never fully prosecuted, so the police department and local governments can count them as “not crimes” meaning the crime rate they report stays low. Crime is visibly terrible here in Minneapolis - whole blocks of decent neighborhoods having their cars broken into, regularly shootings and violent crime even in commercial areas, the complete destruction of uptown, I could go on - and yet our police chief and mayor are out there touting historically low crime. On top of large scale fraud taking place that liberal female judges are throwing out after unanimous guilty verdicts.

Things like this

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1pconlj/hennepin...

are a literal lie. I’ve lived here my whole life. There is absolutely Somalian gang activity both in the twin cities metro and in St. Cloud.

If they don’t even look into Somali crime, or claim it doesn’t exist (lol) they can of course claim the crime rate is historically low.

acdha 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Speaking of propaganda, do you have a link to the data behind those claims? It feels like “complete destruction” should make the news.

asveikau an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Let’s see your immigrant crime stats.

https://www.google.com/search?q=immigrants+less+likely+to+co...

> Crime is at an all time low because liberal DAs

If you take out the outlier years of 2020-2022 caused by the pandemic, crime has been declining for more than 30 years. I don't know what kind of conspiracy theories about "liberal DAs" you're on about, this only became a talking point a few years ago, and wouldn't explain why crime dropped for multiple decades starting in the mid 1990s. The trend is also not restricted to areas with "liberal DAs".