I'm not sure how you can use a laptop with good posture. An external monitor at the right height seems like a necessity.

I'm also optimistic about monitors in the form of glasses- even less effort needed to set yourself up for perfect posture. But the sweet spot problem is still very much a thing from what I've seen- can't wait until it's normal for them to have eye tracking, foveated rendering and streaming, and be wireless.

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cosmic_cheese 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, most of my computer use is with a properly adjusted desk setup with external monitors and while it doesn’t bother me to use a laptop to jot down some notes or for a short study session, if I try to do “real” work at all I quickly become uncomfortable. A cheap folding laptop stand (which elevates the laptop enough that the middle of its screen is eye level) and wireless KB+mouse dramatically improves comfort (and productivity) but the tradeoff is that you need a table or other sizable, stable flat surface.

The exception is if there happens to be a reclined-position chair (IKEA POÄNG or similar) around; this gives back support and reduces neck craning enough to make longer sessions more viable, but it’s far from a given that this kind of seating will be available.

	▲	lanstin 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If you have interesting enough work, nothing else matters. I have written big complex systems while car pooling on a laptop in the passenger seat. The reason for this app is not productivity but for posture.

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rectang 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When working at a desk I put my 16-inch MacBook Pro on a stand and use an external keyboard and trackpad.

I don't like adapting my monitor layout when moving between working environments.

Instead of an extra monitor, I have an iPad Pro on a stand.

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MengerSponge 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My dog could, but a person with adult proportions probably can't. For long-term use, a stand+KB is the only solution I know of

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/86285180/the-roost-savi...

It's too bad that nobody on the Surface team has managed to crack this! I'd be much more interested in one if they had.

	▲	physicles 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I use the Nexstand K2 (well, the Chinese knockoff I got for $5), and I bent some coat hangers to attach to the top of the stand and tilt the laptop forward. I’m a tall guy, and the top of the screen is even with my eyes. Bonus is that with an X1 Carbon, the Lenovo M14 or M14d fits perfectly over the top of the keyboard. The whole setup fits into a drawstring gym bag. https://nexstand.io/
	▲	eastbound 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Laptop work is clearly not OSHA-compliant. I’m in France so it’s probably regulated a little bit more, but having a screen at eye height and a keyboard slightly under elbow height is the first line on the security analysis document (le DUERP), at least for tertiary workers. And far above “Floor must be non-slippery” and “The right to disconnect after 6pm”.

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duckruu 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My Apple Vision Pro has all that, and it’s perfect for posture when using a MacBook.

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jasonjmcghee 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah- this and the upcoming steam frame seem like the best options today.

There's something very attractive for me personally about the sunglasses form factor.

Safer in public, draws less attention, more portable, less headset fatigue, etc.

But obviously trading quality and features.

Also AVP is like $3k, steam frame will probably be $800+, xreal are like half that

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duckruu 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> But obviously trading quality and features.

For me it’s like settling for a CRT after trying a 4k TV in terms of visuals, but with the form factors reversed.

	▲	jasonjmcghee 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Except the form factors are swapped, but yes.

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vunderba 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn’t the Vision Pro rather front loaded in terms of its weight distribution? Seems like you might just be trading one ergonomic problem for another.

	▲	duckruu 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It’s not really, with the new dual band which changes the weight distribution. If you lean back a lot it’s obviously going to rest on your face then, but that’s a good way to avoid bad posture too. Still, it’s not for everyone. I use it with my AirPods Max comfortably, I have a sturdy neck. I don’t think my wife could pull it off.