I unfortunetely have Deutsche Telekom as my ISP and I can confirm that in the evening websites that use Cloudflare have a latency of one minute or simply do not load at all.

I don’t understand why anyone that serves the German market would use Cloudflare. Regardless of who is at fault, you are losing a lot of customers that way.

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kybernetyk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Regardless of who is at fault, you are losing a lot of customers that way.

Don't know. Germans are stingy. I'm German, I live in Germany yet I don't even localize my software to German anymore because German downloads wouldn't convert in any meaningful way. (Even when I had German localization).

It's just anecdotal of course but every other dev I talked to would confirm this unless they had some very germany-specific product.

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stanac 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One minute latency? Sound like worse experience than dial-up.

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lwde 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just switch to 1und1 with good peering (:

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the8472 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Do 1&1 customers get CGNAT or a native v4 address? I have had issues with the AFTR's port mapping tables running full when I was on Unitymedia coax.

	▲	arximboldi 3 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		They switched me to CGNAT in my last speed upgrade, but I wrote to them about it and they moved me to native v4 straight away. Their service is good on a technical level but they have the most aggressive and obnoxious sales reps. They scammed me twice with open lies on the phone (probably abusing also the fact that german is not my mother tongue) and had to fight for ages with their customer service later to get the issue resolved. If you wanna go with them, buy on their website and hang up if anyone from 1und1 ever calls. They are official 1und1 reps and they will prove it you yet behave like scammers.
	▲	xioxox an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I get proper IPV4 and IPV6 addresses with Easybell on VDSL. I've been with them a long time and they've been pretty good.