| ▲ | karlgkk 5 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Honestly, you’re so wrong about the app situation that it’s almost staggering. iOS apps tend to be more stable, better polished, have better integration with system features (like the Dynamic Island), and even often have more features. This isn’t even an unfounded opinion, it’s a material problem for Google and led them to vastly investing in automated testing and quality efforts App addressable user base is another problem for Google, one that they have mentioned in developer conferences. It’s a big part of why they’ve been trying to ship a tablet and unify android and Chromebook. If Google isn’t careful they could find themselves in a downward spiral situation, stuck between apple on one side, and android forks on the other. And the last answer is, as always, money - browser is deemphasized on iOS, and so it’s weaker feature set matters less - iOS is generally easier to develop for because of less device differentiation - on average iOS has significantly wealthier users who tend to be higher return or paying customers (seriously, look it up). This in turn leads companies to invest more heavily in iOS. - easier integration due to a narrow system services ecosystem (no Google vs Samsung slapfights) - unified platform advantage (apps written for iOS easily port to the watch and tablet, unlocking larger markets, and justifying greater spend in developing apps) - apples review process is significantly stricter (for better or for worse) Yes, Apple doesn’t have something like fdroid, and that’s really disappointing and honestly a legitimate dealbreaker for a lot of people | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ben_w 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> iOS apps tend to be more stable, better polished It's been a while since I was last using Android, but first-party Apple apps no longer meet my standards for "polished". e.g. type this sequence into the calculator: The desktop Contacts app has been putting invisible LTR and RTL codes around phone numbers for years now, breaking web forms when auto-entered. The mobile version refreshes specific contacts several times in a row to add no new content, preventing copy from working while it does so. The MacOS Safari translation button appears on the left of the omni-bar, until you click it, at which point it instantly moves to the right and your click turns out to have been on the button that the left-side translation button had hidden. Deleting a selection of items from browsing history is limited to about 5 items per second, as it deletes one then rebuilds the entire list before deleting the next. If I'm listening to a podcast on headpones and an alarm goes off, it doesn't play the alarm through my headphones, it plays on device speakers only. Podcast app's "Up Next" is a magical mystery list that can't be disabled or guided. The "Do Not Disturb" mode can be activated unexpectedly, leading to missed calls, and cannot be deleted. Localisation is inconsistent at every level, including system share sheet and behaviour of decimal separators. I could go on, but you get the point. Apple's quality control just isn't visible in the software at this point. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wolvoleo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The pricing gap also rules Apple out in a lot of markets. Almost nobody has Apple here in Spain, the only people i see are tourists and expats. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wiseowise 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> browser is deemphasized on iOS, and so it’s weaker feature set matters less That's precisely the OP's point. They gimped their browser so there's bigger incentive to use their proprietary system frameworks. > iOS is generally easier to develop for because of less device differentiation That's nonsense. What year are you from? I've heard this like 10 years ago when there only 1 or 2 current iPhone models in circulation. > on average iOS has significantly wealthier users who tend to be higher return or paying customers (seriously, look it up). This in turn leads companies to invest more heavily in iOS. If you offer subscription service, like Netflix/HBO/Nest or whatever, your main goal is volume, not how wealthy your demographic is. > easier integration due to a narrow system services ecosystem (no Google vs Samsung slapfights) Easier integration with what? > unified platform advantage (apps written for iOS easily port to the watch and tablet, unlocking larger markets, and justifying greater spend in developing apps) That's like Android's moat from the start, not bolted on during some 10+ major versions like on iOS. And it works much better, Android apps are truly the same apps. Not gimped, cut off things like Instagram on iOS (is it even fixed now?). > apples review process is significantly stricter (for better or for worse) Both are shit these days due to volume of shovelware produced. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Jedd 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
FWIW, starting a sentence with "Honestly ..." always makes me think the rest of what this person has to say is dishonest. Your BIO on HN is: > I HAVEN'T SHOWERED AT ALL! THAT'S WHY I REEK! WORKING IN FINTECH! AIN'T SHAVED IN WEEKS! POUR CRUMBS FROM MY KEYBOARD! THAT'S WHAT I EAT! WROTE A CURRENCY LIBRARY! 3RD TIME THIS WEEK! LURKING HN! I PREFER /b/! IN MOM'S BASEMENT! I'M THIRTY THREE! IT'S 3'O'CLOCK AM! THAT'S WHEN I SLEEP! AH!!!! COME ON FUCK A GUY!!!! What level of credibility are you seeking? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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