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silisili 7 hours ago

I have a feeling, despite Google's communications, this is all an attempt to thwart the numerous ad-free YouTube apps.

Another reason it should have been broken apart years ago. It's laughable that the biggest ad company in the world owns the largest video site in the world, largest browser in the world, largest search engine in the world, and largest mobile OS in the world.

vee-kay 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

NewPipe (FOSS available on F-Droid) is nice alternative to ads-infested YouTube. I disabled YouTube and YouTube Music apps on my mobile, and I use NewPipe instead. You can even download YT videos or audio from YT videos using it.

McDyver 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm using Pipepipe. I believe it's a fork from NewPipe, and has more features, namely skipping sponsor block, and intros

ycombinatrix 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm using Grayjay at the moment. Somehow still available in the play store (though with reduced feature set).

Grazester 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So entitled. How do you expect Google to pay it's content creators that you watch if they didn't have ads?

mystifyingpoi 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I will be downvoted, but I'm not fooling myself. I don't care. As long as uBlock and yt-dlp still work, I'll use them. If Google breaks them, I'll resort to some automated screengrabbing + maybe some AI automation to click "skip" in a virtual machine or something.

People will use all sorts of excuses, like the ads are about gambling, or contain viruses, or are detrimental to mental health, or whatever. No, don't use these excuses. You just don't want ads, and it is still possible to not see them. That's respectable.

Grazester an hour ago | parent [-]

I will up vote you since you make no pretense about it.

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shakna 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When Google's ads do all the following, I'll consider guilt:

a) Don't throw malware in their ads.

b) Don't throw seizure-inducing flashes in their ads.

c) Allow turning off gambling in their ads.

kwk1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are the ecosystem shapers, let them figure it out.

StopDisinfo910 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The issue is obviously one of trade-off.

Google pays content creators so little they have all started including ads in their videos. Si technically as long as you are counted they get paid. Meanwhile, Google is more and more aggressive with their own ads interrupting videos and pushing you to subscribe to their expensive offer.

Some people, like me, have just stopped watching YouTube. Other are turning to blocking ads.

It's the usual tug of war between revenues and UX but I don't think consumers have to feel bad about not playing by Google's rules.

thaumasiotes 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What's going on with NewPipe? Their F-droid repository is down. Their domain is down. Their github repository is up, but it links to their domain, which isn't. Are they dying?

shscs911 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Seems like a DNSSEC screw-up. You can find more details here.

https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/website/issues/420#issuecomme...

londons_explore 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If google push too hard, someone will make a "youtube mirror" - ie. a complete copy of youtube at a different domain.

The actual data could be hosted p2p across all the users devices, and any missing data retrieved one-time-only from real youtube servers.

direwolf20 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That website will have an IP address and a registered owner. Taking down piracy websites is routine for governments, server providers, and domain registrars now, and they don't care whether the site is actually illegal. You can only get away with this long-term if the site is hosted in Russia, but Russia is sanctioned so how will you pay them?

michaelt 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Eh, somehow The Pirate Bay, Fitgirl Repacks, Anna's Archive, Sci-Hub etc seem to manage it.

The real challenge is delivering good enough performance that your site is better than waiting through 30 seconds of ads; and making it worth your time to run the site: there's hassle, legal risk, and it's not like you can run ads to make some cash.

direwolf20 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They're all severely bandwidth limited. Wouldn't work for YouTube. TPB and FGR get around this using torrents.

clhodapp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Has there ever actually been a success story for using end user mobile handsets as servers?

mystifyingpoi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The actual data could be hosted p2p across all the users devices

Sounds like a Pied Piper app.

nine_k 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you have an estimate of how much would be needed to mirror?

BTW PeerTube is a thing.

direwolf20 5 hours ago | parent [-]

1GB per video

necovek 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I guess you never received a copyright infringement notice from your ISP for seeding a torrent.