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linkjuice4all 3 hours ago

It seems like there's a big opportunity for someone to hire a bunch of disenfranchised US devs that want to flee the country to build an EU-native cloud platform - but clearly there's enough talent on the continent already, so why hasn't this happened yet?

amarant 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It has! Here's a whole list of them, but others might exist too!

https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-pl...

notpushkin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because it’s not a dev problem, it’s a sales problem.

rorylawless 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The sales problem being there isn't anything viable to compete with the established players. Europe has the capability, even without immigration from the US, it just needs a kick to make good enough products.

SilverElfin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The EU should also create a new regulation to force everyone on the continent to move away from American companies. That’s one way to give the local startups a market to sell to.

bigfudge 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’d be interested in arguments that EU providers could be equivalent to Azure … is it realistic to move a large university across for email and other cloud services? Might be the right time to start campaigning for institutions to divest from US tech stacks…

jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It is much more complicated than that.

(1) Europe has a fragmented market; linguistically, product wise (2) Silicon Valley is in the United States (3) The United States has a very large amount of capital to throw at companies (4) even if you managed to succeed in the EU your shares will most likely be bought out from under you if you raised capital (5) all of the above re-inforce each other over time

Once you have that kind of an advantage it is very hard to lose it.