These attacks are not at the level of 'flipping a switch'. If they succeed they can destabilize the grid and that has the potential to destroy gear, and while not as costly as blowing up a dam it can still be quite costly.

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tosapple 2 hours ago | parent [-]

During WW2 both germany and the UK as example were carpet bombed to assail industry, does that help you to understand my position better?

Vietnam too.

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shakna 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Not really.

If you succeed in attacking the grid, you achieve the same widespread industry impact, without the cost of the munitions.

It can take decades to recover from a cyber attack like this, if it succeeds.

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tosapple an hour ago | parent [-]

Again, not endoring any specific case just endorsing SPECIFICITY, COST, and "Collaterals".

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shakna an hour ago | parent [-]

I was not speaking to just one case. Today's incident, is _the norm_.

These attacks are widespread, damaging, and the repercussions are felt for decades in their wake. We _are_ being carpet bombed, and the costs for the victims are ongoing and growing. The collateral damage is everywhere.

Do you really think there's no impact?

> Cyber units from at least one nation state routinely try to explore and exploit Australia’s critical infrastructure networks, almost certainly mapping systems so they can lay down malware or maintain access in the future.

> We recently discovered one of those units targeting critical networks in the United States. ASIO worked closely with our American counterpart to evict the hackers and shut down their global accesses, including nodes here in Australia.

> https://www.intelligence.gov.au/news/asio-annual-threat-asse...

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tosapple an hour ago | parent [-]

You're an idiot, so am I for being drawn into this and having to re-itterate and clarify.

Did I say there's no impact?

	▲	idiotsecant 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		'I appreciate that these scammers are just stealing old people's money online instead of killing them and taking it'!