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kungfulkoder 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You're making a common mistake. WARN is for the _previous_ layoff. The way they execute these, they bump out your effective last day such that there is no WARN notice till after it's already announced.

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otterley 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Where do you see that from the text of the letter to the ESD?

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nlawalker 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"While WARN requires only 60 days’ advance notice, Amazon is providing at least 90 days’ notice to all affected employees before their separations are scheduled to occur. Affected employees who accept internal transfer opportunities at Amazon prior to their separation date will not be separated as a result of this action."

These people were told they were being laid off in October but remain on payroll. What Amazon is "bracing" for is another one of these announcements, much larger, announcing people who will actually separate from the company 90 days later. They will find out on or around the same day the WARN notice is posted.

	▲	otterley 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Oh, darn. You are right. Thanks for the clarification.

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patch_cable 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The date of the notice is October 28th. The separation dates given in the letter are 90 days out from the date of the notice (for some technical reasons, some employees had a separation dates a bit further out.)

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loeg 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Looks like a lot of recruiting and SW Eng I/II for Amazon (approximately a L3-4 at Google or Meta). Does Amazon do up-or-out?

The Meta layoff is 100% Reality Labs (they published team names, in addition to locations and roles).

Edit: parent comment removed the link, but it was https://esd.wa.gov/employer-requirements/layoffs-and-employe... .

	▲	otterley 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Does Amazon do up-or-out? They do not. They have no qualms about eliminating more senior roles as necessary, and generally prefer to staff in a bottom-heavy way because, among other things, it's more frugal.

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abnercoimbre 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Found this section noteworthy:

> Employee separations resulting from this action are expected to be permanent. The affected employees are not represented by a union or any other collective bargaining representative.

	▲	loeg 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It is presumably required by the state unemployment office. You'll find nearly identical language in the other letters on the ESD site.

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elseweather 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is the WARN notice for the _previous_ layoff in October. Presumably they'll file another one for the next wave this week.