| ▲ | prmoustache 4 hours ago |
| > any WhatsApp user in the region The regional limit makes it pretty much useless. The only reason I keep a whatsapp account is to stay in touch with my family in law and a few relatives who live in another continent. |
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| ▲ | hei-lima 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| In countries where SMS isn't as widespread as it is in the US, the use of WhatsApp is much more common. I live in one of those countries, and I don't think I've ever had to use it to communicate with someone on another continent. I think most of its use is simply local, for your community or friend group. The downside for me is basically the lack of appeal for a non-tech user (like my parents) to voluntarily want to stop using an app they've been using for, what, 10-12 years? It’s not that big of a deal; everyone uses Instagram or Facebook (maybe)... WhatsApp is definitely going to make the process difficult, too. |
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| ▲ | thevillagechief 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Whatsapp is more popular in the US than you'd think. Probably due to a large immigrant population. I'm in several groups that use the channels feature to organize things like soccer, game nights etc. Most people with family abroad use Whatsapp, and that's a huge portion of the US. | |
| ▲ | nozzlegear 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | SMS isn't widespread in the US, iMessage is. | | |
| ▲ | xvedejas an hour ago | parent [-] | | It all depends on age group in my experience. My friends all a bit older than me prefer Messenger for everything. My friends all younger than me prefer Discord. I think my parents and their generation use iMessage, but I use WhatsApp with them. My generation used to use snapchat a lot, I think, but I never got on that boat. |
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| ▲ | joe_mamba 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >The regional limit makes it pretty much useless. Sounds like an easy fix. Europe just has to convince the rest of the world to ditch the 15 year old popular US apps ingrained in pop culture and with network effects, and have them switch to their own EU made apps, this way we can all communicate together. :hugs: Until then, let's keep chatting on $US_APP so we can debate on how we're gonna achieve that switch. |
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| ▲ | neves 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Man, this is just a message app. It's trivial. The law must mandate it to work. It's not a technical problem. It's a political one | |
| ▲ | Grimblewald 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Shouldnt be hard to convince folks. Everyone i know hates facebook / meta and is just waiting for an agreed upon alternative. | | |
| ▲ | direwolf20 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | There's one. It's Signal. I keep telling people to use it and they keep not, because people are less likely to do things if they've been told they should do them. | |
| ▲ | xmcp123 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Everybody says this until there’s an alternative. There have been several alternatives, and people didn’t switch. | | |
| ▲ | zarzavat 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The alternatives suck. WhatsApp strikes a good balance of usability and security. Telegram is too insecure (no E2E by default). Signal is too secure (no chat exports). Nobody has even bothered to make an app that stands toe-to-toe with WhatsApp, even without the network effects. | | |
| ▲ | computerfriend 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Signal has exports. | | |
| ▲ | neves 19 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Which non hacker news user exports chats? I'm the only person I know who ever did it. |
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| ▲ | tonyhart7 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | You literally mention 2 of the biggest whatsapp competitor and you have audacity to says "Nobody has even bothered to make an app that stands toe-to-toe with WhatsApp" |
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| ▲ | anonzzzies 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have lately been telling people whatsapp is from facebook (meta means nothing to them) and now they are looking for alternatives. Unfortunately, there isn't really much european/eu (never heard of birdychat though). It does show though it is not hard to get some people to switch; they have groups on whatsapp and use it for nothing else; these are people they chat with often so they only need to switch those and then whatsapp can go. I find Telegram the best app; its faster and easier than the rest I find. The default no e2e sucks so cannot use it for everything, but having everything immediately ready and working on all devices makes it very nice. When you buy a new one, immediately all is there. Yes, obviously I am aware that can only be because no e2e, but normies and non normies alike seem to really hate the whatsapp, and even more, signal losing all your messages because backup/restore is too annoying. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but if someone manages to make more that experience... I mean turn it around; make e2e the default but allow people to create groups or 1-1 without e2e if they want (knowing then downsides and upsides of that). | |
| ▲ | Scarblac 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is an ongoing move from Whatsapp to Signal. It's just very slow. | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You realize that at the end of your sentence you've contradicted everything you've said from the start until that point, right? Maybe it was tongue in cheek and I missed it. |
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| ▲ | kelvinjps10 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's not really about that but more that other countries start regulating the same way as WhatsApp and that way not all people would switch to these apps but they would have the opportunity to use it and keep talking with their friends and family |
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