Matrix is getting traction though...

Nextgrid 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Matrix is a lost cause. The protocol is too complex/ambitious and the company behind it doesn't have the resources to actually produce a good server nor client implementation. I was hopeful for it at first but at some point you have to be realistic.

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zenmac 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

While I agree with you, and there should more diverse members than just the people from Element.

What I do like about them is the zero server trust stand they are taking on their clients which makes migration a pain in the butt, but that is what one would expect from a true e2ee chat app.

And now they have two stable servers in rust. The French and German government including military are using the protocol to make their own apps. Maybe it should be something the EU should put some more resource into it?

	▲	palata 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> What I do like about them is the zero server trust stand they are taking Last time I checked, the Matrix servers had access to a lot of metadata. Did they fundamentally change it?
	▲	hermanzegerman 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		German Healthcare will also be using Matrix

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vpShane 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It was the invite floods of what was probably CP and cat torture that made me uninstall it and never look back.

No thanks on that. I don't have time or energy for these things.

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kelnos 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it? My experience with it has been middling at best, and I communicate with exactly zero people through Matrix outside of the context of open source projects.

The UX is still pretty bad, with many rough edges around sign-in and device verification. The message/encryption story has gotten better (it's been a long time since I've gotten spurious errors about being unable to decrypt messages), but it's still not particularly easy to use. Performance-wise I've found it to still be fairly bad; loading messages after I've been offline takes a noticeable amount of pause, something I rarely see with other messaging platforms.

On the plus side, Matrix does have many chat features that many people like (or even require) in a chat platform, like formatting, emojis, message reactions, threads, etc.