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PlatoIsADisease 4 hours ago

This is somewhat a variant of the cooperate situation in the prisoners dilemma.

I find it interesting to dress it up in religion, because the optimal situation is to defect, and if everyone knows the game, you get a worse outcome. Religion can cause people to be selfless and you get a better outcome for most people.

I've always thought to teach people religion, but defect yourself. In a modern secular world, teach everyone ascetic stoicism. Myself, follow some sort of Machiavellian/Nietzsche/hedonism.

vacuity 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The optimal decision in the Prisoner's Dilemma is to defect, but in the iterated version, where multiple Dilemmas occur and people remember previous results, Tit-For-Tat is optimal. The real world is even less reminiscent of the Dilemma, so it's not at all clear that the Dilemma's conclusion applies.

(Tit-For-Tat: Prefer cooperating, but if the other person defected on the previous turn, defect on the current turn.)

AIorNot 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ignoring myth and belief differences

The purpose of the article and the story above was simple - you and I are the same ultimately

The golden rule is just that- when we recognize ourselves in others we act to minimize pain in others as we would to ourselves

Imagine the world as a one person play with each role played by the same person but in different costumes: you

exe34 an hour ago | parent [-]

I found it very hard to apply the golden rule as someone who was abused as a child. I don't care how I'm treated, so I can treat you in any way, however cruel.

By accident I discovered that if instead of imagining how you would feel if I did this bad thing to you, I imagined how the one person I loved would feel. Suddenly I had a working version of empathy, which I use to this day. I don't treat others as I would want to be treated - I treat them as I would want them to treat my loved one.

thisislife2 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Felt bad hearing about your childhood but am really glad you found a way to get past it to start trusting people again. It must have been a difficult process for you but I am glad you shared your worldview with us - I find it more "selfless" than the golden rule.

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lo_zamoyski 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So you're a liar and degenerate psychopath.