Last time this came up I decided to try Scaleway which is at the top of their "cloud computing" list.

"European alternative" that doesn't know that European addresses have non-ASCII characters: https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1835649083345649780

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s_dev 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm sure there are much bigger and more worthwhile criticisms to be had than this.

It's something they should fix and if they did would you suddenly switch to Scaleway? I think you would consider other factors first.

A good critique for example is OVH lost a lot of customer data due to a fire. Where was the redundancy? That would make me think twice before switching to OVH.

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alberto-m 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lack of Unicode support in 2026 is like someone coming with dirty clothes to a job interview: it might not affect too much how the work is done, but immediately raises doubts about the underlying level of professionalism.

	▲	troupo 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That was 2024 (still inexcusable), they managed to fix it at one point https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46734771

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celsoazevedo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> A good critique for example is OVH lost a lot of customer data due to a fire. Where was the redundancy? That would make me think twice before switching to OVH.

I lost a VPS in that fire, but I was up and running a few hours later with a new VPS at a different OVH location.

Not to deflect blame away from OVH and their large screw up, but we should never rely only on the redundancy of the hosting provider. Even on AWS, I wouldn't trust them to not lose my data if one of their datacenters burns down.

At the time I was making regular backups to two different providers with servers somewhere else. When I noticed that it was serious, I ordered a new VPS and restored everything. If OVH itself went down, I could have used Scaleway, Hetzner, Contabo, etc.

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u8080 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hetzner/Linode were MITMing their client(jabber.ru): https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/

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troupo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Was it Hetzner, or was it an attacker hosting on Hetzner/Linode?

	▲	direwolf20 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It was the German equivalent of the NSA, with the German equivalent of a National Security Letter, sent to Hetzner to force them to intercept this customer's traffic. The same thing happens in the USA.

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troupo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's something they should fix and if they did would you suddenly switch to Scaleway?

You know why I have this screenshot? Because I literally tried to switch to "great European alternative" that is "as slick as DO".

After a third or a fourth screen, most of which felt completely isolated and disconnected from any previous ones, I gave up on the screen that couldn't handle a standard European address.

This was literally the point that I gave up.

So I went ahead... and signed up with Hetzner.

Edit

So I decided to try again. Literally the first page of account sign in tried to trick you into accepting tracking

Since I apparently had an account, I could login... So redirected to a subdomain with the same cookie popup. On a site that is solely for billing address collection

which then redirects you to a third domain with the a similar but different popup.

Which ends up on an empty page indistinguishable in "usability" from Hetzner (or worse)

That's the end of my experience of my "European DO that is Scaleway".

They did fix the addresss boxes, kudos to them