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jbstack 6 hours ago

Suggestion: improve the opening summary paragraph:

"Radicle is an open source, peer-to-peer code collaboration stack built on Git. Unlike centralized code hosting platforms, there is no single entity controlling the network. Repositories are replicated across peers in a decentralized manner, and users are in full control of their data and workflow."

From this, I can't tell how it's any different to just plain self-hosted Git. A well written introduction should tell the reader immediately what the software actually does. If it's meant to be an alternative to something like gitea / forgejo then say that, with a brief summary of features that build on top of Git.

the_other 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reading the intro, I feel like I got a good hint about what this is. It sounded like "local first git for teams, without the hell of sharing patches via email".

I don't know what gitea or forgejo are, so comparisons wouldn't help me.

TeMPOraL 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The other day someone here coined JTPP - "Just the prompt, please", expressing preference for reading the prompt instead of the e-mail/article it produced. The reasons for that are rather obvious, but I think it applies to marketing copy in general.

With that in mind, I wonder what the original idea behind this project was - the "prompt" that someone got in their mind, which got them excited enough to build this. Reading the "original prompt" might make it easier to figure the product out. Marketing copy is "how we can make what we have look more alluring to people". The "original prompt" is directly answering "what we actually aspired to build".

mistercheph 3 hours ago | parent [-]

P2P Github

causalscience 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can tell you. Forgejo is a git server (i.e. you can push to a remove that lives in a different machine) plus a web GUI that allows to list repos, list commits within a repo, navigate commits and files within a commit.

The license is Free and Copyleft.

zamalek 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You still have to run it on a server somewhere, which Nintendo can get shut down.

badsectoracula 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nintendo (or whoever) will shutdown whatever users visit to download the thing they want gone. From a skim through the user guide, Radicle seems to only handle the dev/backend side of things and Nintendo wouldn't care that much about it. After all there are already several git mirrors of Yuzu, what was lost was the official "download this" page and the centralized Github bits (issues, etc), though other projects could like handle this bit just fine either as addons (Forgejo) or natively (like the Fossil SCM).

overfeed 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nintendo can't shutdown your git server if it's running on a Raspberry Pi in your pantry, or a NAS appliance in your home office/basement.

As a matter of fact, Forgejo/Gitea are excellent choices for automatic mirroring of any Git repos you fear may be shutdown by DMCA shenanigans.

lorenzleutgeb 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Right. Radicle would be one way to connect all these Raspberry Pis in many pantries together, and have them replicate each others repos. It also enables others to send patches, without first having to create an account on that Raspberry Pi in your pantry. And in case your Raspberry Pi is offline, others will just as happily serve your project, with cryptographic assurance that it wasn't modified.

Don't get me wrong. Power to you and your Raspberry Pi! Radicle invites you to join a network of people that solve the same problem as you do, and pool resources.

overfeed 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I wasn't shitting on Radicle - I think centralized Git is antithetical to the D in DVCS.

yjftsjthsd-h an hour ago | parent [-]

In what way is git antithetical to being distributed? Github, sure, but git itself seems fine.

dtj1123 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

The key word here is "centralized".

saurik 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But if people can't find it, then they can't download the code or contribute to the project. And if people can find it, then there is no need to physically wrest your device out of your home: they'll just get your domain name taken away or your ISP to block the connections (at best, if not entirely shut you down).

iamnothere 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s why you host over Tor with an .onion domain. Immune to takedowns.

zamalek 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They can get you arrested, and you wouldn't be their first.

mistercheph 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Just like the MPAA is having people arrested for torrenting films?

It doesn't scale well unless there's a centralized entity you can go after that controls distribution.

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dwa3592 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I looked at the page and my understanding was that this is a decentralized github. Teams can collaborate without a company getting access to the code?

endiangroup 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AD: Feel free to take a stab at an alternative, we're an open source project and we accept and welcome discussions but patches more so! What would read better in your opinion?

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bigbadfeline 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> What would read better in your opinion?

You're asking someone else to describe what your project is doing?

The lack of good description isn't unique, I've bee skipping more and more of those lately, but asking others to tell the developers what they've developed is new in my book.

a-dub 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

no, it's a distributed peer-to-peer alternative to something like github. it has all the features like a locally hosted forgejo/gitea/gitlab, but it also is built on a distributed and fault-tolerant peer-to-peer network for hosting public projects.

fwip 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unless something's changed since last I checked it out, it's git "on the blockchain." Including its own RAD-coin token.

Edit: removed snarky line.

lorenzleutgeb 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot has changed. But also you must've checked it quite some time ago. It's not on the blockchain anymore since the "heartwood" iteration, which was announced 2023-04-18. Please take some time to re-inform yourself, even just in this HN thread (search for "RAD ", the whitespace is significant).

fwip 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Glad to hear it.

Defelo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't know about previous versions, but afaik since the release of the current heartwood implementation it is neither based on a blockchain nor does it include any "crypto" stuff. If it did, I probably wouldn't be using it.