| ▲ | yesturi 7 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Today, storage is so advanced that to the ordinary user it simply presents as some kind of non-leaky abstraction: small rectangular shape, no moving parts, stores blocks, retrieves blocks, low latency, high reliability. Back then, the storage is was much more 'real': it was slow, made noises, degraded noticeably because of stray magnetic fields etc, complicated mechanical parts. By the hearing alone, you may spot problems. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Twirrim 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Over a decade ago I was working for AWS on Glacier, we jokingly pitched an April fools day article about how Glacier stores customer data on vinyl records, and that 9 out of 10 customers preferred the feel of their data when restored. AWS doesn't (or didn't) do April Fools day bits, so it didn't go anywhere, but the idea did amuse us in the team for a bit. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | hinkley an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The first time I installed Slackware I didn’t have enough spare floppies to get the whole thing, I had to delete some things to do so, and then copying it in the computer lab lead to several dead disks. The installer didn’t yet have a retry feature so every time a disk turned out to be bad I had to make a new copy and start at the beginning. And sometimes that disk would be bad too. So the first time I installed slack I really installed it ten times. Do not recommend. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | lucideer 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
One of the most "real" features of vinyl records that I never really internalised until I started buying a few is that you can take a record out of its sleeve & look at the grooves to see how many tracks is on each side & how long each of the tracks is. You can also "skip" to tracks when playing (much better than tapes ever could) using this same method. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | el_benhameen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’ve been working on archiving a bunch of old hard drives and floppies that my parents found and gave to me when they were cleaning out their garage. Aside from the fun of seeing all of the old contents of the drives, it’s also been fun to walk through the progression of storage devices through the years. Lots of cool sounds and form factors, including an early Conner hard drive (that I have unfortunately been unable to archive), which is built like a tank and makes some great noises as it spins up and seeks. Also cool to learn a little more about how the various storage media worked. It all feels very simple when you abstract it all away into bytes and blocks, but there was some wild engineering in those things. If you stop to look back, it’s impressive that we’ve made it this far. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | WalterBright 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I knew my PC was booting normally by the sound of the floppy drives. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | comprev 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The physical aspect is what I most enjoy while DJing with vinyl. While I do have a full "digital" DJ setup to nothing beats (no pun intended) the satisfaction of mixing the black circular slabs with no crutches available in the digital world. Every mistake and imperfection of the groove is there for the listener to hear, with little room for error. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | casets 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Back then, the storage is was much more 'real': it was slow, made noises, degraded noticeably because of stray magnetic fields etc, complicated mechanical parts. By the hearing alone, you may spot problems. And it also could involve manual manipulation of things holding the data. I may not have ever worked with lots of switches or cards or big reel-to-reels, but for our family’s first computer we had a Radio Shack cassette player that I could hook to it to load software. It was an ordeal to put in a tape, rewind if necessary and coordinate pressing play on the cassette tape player with the load command I had to enter in to load a program. Those were the days! I could also record and load my own programs from the tapes. Press the record and play buttons at the same time and hit enter on that keyboard! Granted our first computer also had cartridges, but I only had a few for it. It was like Christmas (or literally was Christmas) whenever we got new software from anywhere, whether it was from Radio Shack or a bookstore that had a few or more tapes available. That’s why I started to program. It was fun, and it was the only way to get new software whenever I wanted it. Early on it was entering programs from the manual, but I learned quickly to write my own. When I later got a 5 1/4” floppy drive, it was so awesome, especially once I got an Apple and could trade/copy disks from others, stores, a local college, and the library. Even once we got a modem, you still had put the data somewhere, so it went on floppies. Everything was physical and novel then. It was so awesome. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | kergonath 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> By the hearing alone, you may spot problems. I still have PTSD from those Zip drives. You could hear your data disappearing into nothingness as you watched powerless the drive hacking away at your cartridge. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | colincooke 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Oh man, this reminds me of my "party trick" back in the day of saying I could tell what OS a computer was running by listening to the HDD seeking. The good old days | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pixl97 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>By the hearing alone, you may spot problems. Yep, was pretty easy to realize when you may have a bad sector on a floppy. Even hard drives were more than loud enough you could tell when fragmentation was getting bad or the disk was starting to act suspect. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | afandian 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
And yet was an absolute marvel of engineering. I often used to wonder at the accuracy and reliability they got out of those stepper motors, trying to imagine the size of the tracks. Fun thought experiment. The 128 GB SD card on my desk could store a 1-bit bitmap of 1,000,000 x 1,000,000 pixels. Imagine shrinking that down to the size of the die, and how small each (logical) cell is. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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