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georgestrakhov 4 hours ago

AI is not a horse (2023) https://essays.georgestrakhov.com/ai-is-not-a-horse/

baxtr 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe AI is a centaur??

Symmetry 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

After Deep Blue Garry Kapsparav proposed "Centaur Chess"[1] where teams of humans and computers would complete with each other. For about a decade a team like that was superior to either an unaided computer or an unaided AI. These days pure AI teams tend to be much stronger.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_chess

pixl97 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

With intelligence of models seeming spikey/lumpy I suspect we'll see tasks and domains fall to AI one at a time. Some will happen quickly and others may take far longer than we expect.

ffsm8 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

How would pure ai ever be "much stronger" in this scenario?

That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever, it can only be "equally strong", making the approach non-viable because they're not providing any value... But the only way for the human in the loop to add an actual demerit, you'd have to include time taken for each move into the final score, which isn't normal in chess.

But I'm not knowledgeable on the topic, I'm just expressing my surprise and inability to contextualize this claim with my minor experience of the game

Symmetry an hour ago | parent [-]

If you had a setup where the computer just did its thing and never waited for the human to provide input but the human still had an unused button they could press to get a chance to say something that might technically count as "centaur", but that isn't really what people mean by the term. It's the delay in waiting for human input that's the big disadvantage centaur setups have when the human isn't really providing any value these days.

jeanlucas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Baxtr, JAMES BAXTR? That's the exact comment I'd expect of someone named that.

GlobalFrog 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or a reverse-centaur ? https://locusmag.com/feature/commentary-cory-doctorow-revers...

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Or a reverse centaur [1].

[1] https://locusmag.com/feature/commentary-cory-doctorow-revers...

egeozcan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We don't know it, up to the point we observe it.

Almondsetat 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AI is a quantum mechanic

willrshansen 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

AI is a quantum horse

zombot 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But since the act of observation influences the object observed, who knows what then becomes of it?