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jauntywundrkind 8 hours ago

Pretty good vector processing built-in. Time series capabilities. Nice Change-Data-Capture table that I've used & loved. Rust which is easy as hell to embed. Underlying libsqlite is very useful too. The CLI has far better ergonomics than sqlite & good formatting. Async & concurrent writes. Backwards compatibility. Just so ragingly badass. Tries. Isn't narrow & conservative. Amazing test suite.

The discussion didn't seem to be about merits. It just simply seemed to be a bunch of pissy empty whining & loser statements that it wasn't even worth beginning to regard it at all, for dumb petulant reasons x y and z. Fuck that. Fine, I'm happy to sing some praises. But IMO there is a war against imagination & this loserly attitude is the omni present all pervading no value woeful forefront. This pox is everywhere, just no regard, no consideration at all, just out of hand disregard for ridiculous inconsiderate Fear Uncertainty and Doubt anti-reason, thought terminating no's.

Murderers of hacker spirit. Sure, come ask for better! Yes!! Please!!! Inquire & challenge. Push for actual meat (both ways). I saw none, I tried to give you some here. These empty vessels have just vapors of fear, boogiemen to conjure & scare with. No actual content or assessment. So weird to rally so hard against open source, just because it doesn't also hail from 2.5 decades ago. We need more than reflexivism. Or we are shite non hacker people of a low culture.

I complain about negativity because this is rotten & a stink. It's everywhere & so rarely is it of substance, talks to anything. I've tried to add some weight here, and most of what I've said feels basic but this gets bold: I think the weight of anti-possibility weighs heavier & has a bigger mantle to bear in its naysaying than speaking for. We should attune ourselves to consideration. The hacker spirit should favor the idea of possibility above rejection & discarding of potential.

bawolff 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> Amazing test suite.

Lol, is that a joke.

Seesh.

[To be clear, i think sqlite is the hands down winner on this front, no contest. Does the Turso test suite qualify it to be used in safety critical applications? I don't think so].

To your other points - look if it works for you i'm not here to tell you you can't use it. However these features sound more trendy than useful. To me these sound like negatives. A bunch of extra features not related to being a relational database suggests they aren't concentrating on the core product. I dont know enough about their model for async & concurrent writes to really evaluate the cost/benefit, but both those features sound potentially really scary and of questionable value.

At the end of the day its just not a compelling pitch. It seems like trading reliability and stability for a bunch of meaningless bling.

Best of luck to them, but at this point yeah, sqlite sounds like a much better option to me.

jauntywundrkind 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It's just so wild to me that people are so married to anti-features like this. That anti-interest do possesses the modern spirit, enraptures people so.

'i don't know what it is but I'm not interested and it's probably scarey' is not, imo, befitting the cultures I personally want to see. There's times and places for extreme conservatism, but generally I am far more here for progress, for trying for aspiring to better, and I thought that was so clearly what the hacker spirit was about.

HelloNurse 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Progress would be a respectful experiment to hack an implementation of vector indexing, or some other actually useful feature, into the actual SQLite, preferably as an extension.

That would be a valid experiment and, if it goes well, a contribution, while hoping that someone bases anything important on Turso looks like grabbing captive users.