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| ▲ | closewith 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The “relationship” I refer to isn’t “they’re your boss,” it’s “how do you and your boss communicate,” which is a different thing altogether. No, they're impossibly intertwined and cannot be treated separately. > That’s not to say power dynamics can’t exist, just that it’s not a thing you can apply to every conversation or situation. To the contrary, it's not something your can ignore in any conversion between subordinate and a boss, which is the point the GP was trying to make. | | |
| ▲ | scott_w 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | For your hypothesis to work, it would mean it’s not possible for me to tell my boss “no.” Yet I do this all the time without repercussion. Trying to boil every relationship down to “power dynamics” is outright childish. Do my boss and I have a formal relationship based on expectations we have of each other? Yes, absolutely. Are there consequences if I repeatedly go against those expectations? Yes. Are we friends? No. Does that give him unlimited control over me? Also no. Are there consequences for my boss repeatedly going against my expectations of him? Yes. Are they the same? Are there people out there that abuse the position of boss to extract unreasonable concessions? Undeniably, yes. Is this relevant to a discussion of your boss asking if a task can be finished sooner? Not in the slightest. I hope this clarifies things for you. | | |
| ▲ | closewith 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Do my boss and I have a formal relationship based on expectations we have of each other? Yes, absolutely. Are there consequences if I repeatedly go against those expectations? Yes. Are we friends? No. Does that give him unlimited control over me? Also no. Are there consequences for my boss repeatedly going against my expectations of him? Yes. Are they the same? What you are describing is what we call power dynamics, the effect of a power differential on the dynamics of a relationship. > I hope this clarifies things for you. This seems oddly passive aggressive and dismissive. I wonder would you speak to me this way if I was your boss, or the CEO of your company, or the majority owner. | | |
| ▲ | scott_w an hour ago | parent [-] | | > What you are describing is what we call power dynamics, the effect of a power differential on the dynamics of a relationship. My wife and I have a formal relationship: our marriage contract. If I violate that contract then there can be consequences for me. Are there power dynamics at play? I sign a contract with a supplier (or vice-versa). If one of us violates that contract, there are consequences. Are there power dynamics at play? > I wonder would you speak to me this way if I was your boss, or the CEO of your company, or the majority owner. I have done, yes. | | |
| ▲ | closewith an hour ago | parent [-] | | It seems from your comments that you are confusing power dynamics with coercive control.
Power dynamics doesn’t refer to coercion, but to asymmetric authority wielded, social status, risk distributed, or cost borne by individuals in a group. Even when refusal is possible, where the one or more of the above is uneven, power dynamics are at play. > My wife and I have a formal relationship: our marriage contract. If I violate that contract then there can be consequences for me. Are there power dynamics at play? I'm not sure this is landing the way you think it is, as yes, of course there are power dynamics at play in personal relationships, including between you and your wife. >I sign a contract with a supplier (or vice-versa). If one of us violates that contract, there are consequences. Are there power dynamics at play? Yes, of course. > I have done, yes. And of course you would speak to each differently as you would to me or to a subordinate, due to the power dynamics at play. |
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